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Traditional Catholic Groups Explained - yt video (33:23)

Started by justjeff, April 04, 2025, 10:32:13 AM

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justjeff

A friend sent me this link. It looks interesting, though I've only watched a couple of minutes of it.
I would be interested in hearing the opinions of others on this.


Geremia

Here's a summary of the transcript:
Quote from: deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-R1-Distill-Qwen-32BThe video provides an overview of Catholic groups skeptical of Vatican II, categorizing them into Una Cum and Sedevacantist groups. Here's a structured summary:

Una Cum Groups
  • Society of Saint Pius X (SSPX): Largest traditional group, accepts the Pope but rejects parts of Vatican II. Uses the traditional Latin Mass (1962 Missal), rejecting the Novus Ordo's viability.
  • Priestly Fraternity of Saint Peter (FSSP): Accepts Vatican II, uses both 1962 and pre-1955 Mass forms, viewing the Latin Mass as their specific charism.

Sedevacantist Groups
  • Congregation of Mary Immaculate Queen (CMRI): Rejects the current Pope, uses pre-1955 Mass, notable for The Singing Nuns.
  • Society of Saint Pius V (SSPV): Rejects Vatican II, uses pre-1955 Mass, operates a YouTube channel and monastery.
  • Roman Catholic Institute (ICR): Split from SSPV, similar beliefs, runs a school and uses pre-1955 Mass.
  • Most Holy Family Monastery: Advocates "stay-at-home" sanism, rejects Church authorities.

Other Groups
  • Old Catholic Churches: Split over Vatican I, now largely liberal, some more traditional.
  • Independent Groups: Elect their own Popes, e.g., Palmarian Catholic Church with its own Missal, and former SSPX seminarian David Boden as Pope Michael.

This summary highlights each group's main beliefs, Mass practices, and notable features, providing a clear overview of the discussed Catholic groups.

It doesn't seem to discuss the question of the validity of Novus Ordo sacraments (besides the Mass)—notably, whether episcopal consecration, priestly ordination, and baptism are valid in the Vatican II new sacraments:
There's even more variety of opinion on this (even among some particular trad groups).