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and now coming to you from an undisclosed location it's the Novus Ordo
watch trap cast you can't make the stuff up people listen up we have found the

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closest thing to infallibility in this life if you're not the Pope and still
want to be infallible there is now an easy way to become 99% infallible even
as a layman all you need to do is look at what Mark chasez and take the
opposite viewpoint that will do it ninety-nine percent of the time more on
that in a minute welcome it is track cast number 007 and
we are loaded with great content for you so don't even think about not listening
thanks for joining glad you're here let's get started
in his great encyclical letter sati scoonie tomb of jun 29 1896 Pope Leo the

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13th taught quote there can be nothing more dangerous than those heretics who
admit nearly the whole cycle of doctrine and yet by one word as with a drop of
poison in fact the real and simple faith taught by our Lord and handed down by
apostolic tradition unquote and in his encyclical letter at beata see me of
November first 1914 pope benedict the 15th stated quote such is the nature of
Catholicism that it does not admit of more or less but must be held as a whole
or as a whole rejected unquote let's take a moment and examine the question
why is that why is it that someone who believes 99 out of 100 dogmas is not a
Catholic at all why couldn't we say that he is ninety-nine percent of a Catholic

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or more Catholic than those who only believe say 75 of a hundred dogmas why
is one not a Catholic at all for denying even just one single dogma why this
black and white All or Nothing position it is very important to answer this
question correctly for the entire Catholic faith depends on it in a way
the reason why you must adhere to all dogmas of the faith to be a Catholic and
why denial of even just one dogma makes you a non-catholic is found in the
virtue of faith true faith is the ascent of the mind to what God has revealed
because he has revealed it and he cannot deceive or be deceived God cannot lie
and he cannot make a mistake or be fooled so what God reveals to us must be

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true but then it follows that everything revealed by God is true and therefore I
must believe exact Lee that everything but the only way we
can know what God has revealed is through the Catholic Church because God
has communicated that revelation the deposit of faith to his church through
the Apostles and this revelation ended with the death of the last apostle st.
John the Evangelist in the early 2nd century so the motive for our faith that
is the reason why we believe what we believe must be that the God who cannot
lie or be deceived has revealed it but if this is so then it follows that we
cannot pick and choose what we believe for if we do so then we are admitting
that our motive for believing anything is not the authority of God who reveals

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the truth and who has revealed all dogmas not just some but something else
for example because we find it agreeable or Pleasant or it seems right to us or
it makes sense to us or because it's good for business or whatever well in
that case the motive of our belief is not God at all but ourselves we are the
reason we believe not God not the truth we are and when something other than God
is the motive for our faith then we have no faith no supernatural faith which is
the faith required for salvation as Hebrews 11 6 says quote but without
faith it is impossible to please God unquote and so that is the reason why
even denying one single dogma makes us a non-catholic a heretic a person with no
faith whatsoever because by doing so we are showing that our motive for belief

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is not God but ourselves and so it makes little difference that we affirm 99
other diagonals of the church as long as we deny even one we are believing the
other 99 for the wrong reason and that reason is that we ourselves have chosen
to believe it so we have no supernatural faith in this
case at all but only human faith faith in ourselves and not in God this faith
of course cannot save because it is not a virtue and certainly not a
supernatural virtue and that is why such a person is not a Catholic at all that
is why there can be no 95% Catholics and why one cannot be more or less Catholic
than another just like one cannot be more or less pregnant or more or less
dead so now we understand why probably the 13th said that the worst kind of

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heretic is the one who admits almost all dogmas and denies only one as with a
drop of poison and why pope benedict the 15th taught that catholicism is all or
nothing that it does not admit of more or less but must be held as a whole or
as a whole rejected this is very much forgotten truth in our times in which
people think that faith and belief are basically nothing more than personal
opinions they find acceptable wrong track cast alright we're going to switch
gears now and talk about a matter that will not be suitable for children so if
you have any little ears listening right now this is the time to ask them to do
something else okay because we're going to be talking about Planned Parenthood

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and the termination of pre born human life well no doubt you've heard about
the undercover videos exposing the horrifying deeds of Planned Parenthood
which is the top abortion that is baby butchering organization in the United
States of America not only do they as everyone obviously new crush burn and
dismember preborn children in the womb all the way up to delivery they also try
to salvage the organs and other parts of the children
and sell them so these undercover videos that have been released by the Center
for medical progress expose this they are secretly recorded conversations with
abortionists and others other staff from Planned Parenthood in which they admit

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to these things and talk about them in the most sickening fashion I don't think
I have to go on with any more details will simply put a link to further
information on our show page at trappist dot org now if there is one layman in
the Vatican to church who can be counted
on to say the wrong thing even in such a scenario it's the American bloggers and
loudmouth mark che that's the same marché by the way who once argued that
we should be thrilled that the British singer and sodomy Queen Elton John
admirers Pope Francis because this means so she thought that he's moving closer
to the gospel yeah well anyway even though che is clearly pro-life and most
certainly has condemned the atrocities of Planned Parenthood and no uncertain

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terms in a recent podcast he made in which he discusses the Planned
Parenthood videos at length the lion's share of his criticism isn't directed at
Planned Parenthood but at the pro-lifers who made the undercover video because
you see they lied to the abortionist they lie to them about who they were and
what they wanted now let me say something here Catholic teaching is very
clear lying is always wrong in all circumstances it cannot be done even to
save the life of another that is true and Shey is correct and pointing it out
however we need to also keep in mind according
to Catholic teaching again that not all false or misleading statements are
necessarily lies and lying is in and of itself only a venial sin circumstances
can make it a mortal sin such as when the lie is about a very important matter

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the listener has the right to know the truth about or if it causes grave harm
or if it is done under oath for example however in itself consider just as the
deliberate telling of a falsehood it is venial only now that doesn't mean we can
do it certainly not but it does mean that if we do do it then sanctifying
grace in us insofar as we are in the state of grace is only diminished and
not entirely destroyed we wouldn't even have to go to confession strictly
speaking all right now I really don't know what the pro-life group that did
the undercover videos the Center for medical progress I don't know what these
people exactly did or said in order to be able to do these secret recordings
because you see they they may actually not have light necessarily there's

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there's some leeway in Catholic moral theology in such matters and we'll look
at that in greater depth in a moment for one thing they may have used mental
reservations in which nothing is said that is actually untrue but one
deliberately allows the here to draw wrong conclusions from what one has said
in addition to that assuming they did lie the guilt of a lie is diminished the
greater the good that is obtained by it although we must insist again that the
end does not justify the means lying is still not permitted not even to obtain a
great good so without examining what exactly they said and how they presented
themselves and so forth we must say that most likely they simply lied right and
so they did something that was not permitted okay they send okay well in all

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likelihood their lies were venial sins only not saying that venial sins aren't
a big deal just saying that if you have two parties at the table and one of them
commits a venial sin of lying to expose the fact that the other party burns and
cuts babies to pieces and sells them to the highest bidder then you can bet your
bottom dollar I'm not going to be castigating the party that's exposing
this for lying to the baby butcher I'm sorry but you have to be really messed
up in the head if for such an atrocity you think the focus should be on the
venial sins committed by the pro-life or against the abortionist who sells baby
hands baby livers and baby hearts but mark che doesn't stop there he even
takes issue with the fact that some pro-lifers have called up abortion Ruiz
to make fake abortion appointments as part of their investigation che says

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that by doing this the pro-lifers are tempting the people at the abortion to
participate in the sin of murder now this is even crazier these are people
working right quote unquote working at an abortion abortion clinic but I really
don't want to call them clinics because they're killing centers their service
quote-unquote is abortion so they've already made up their minds they're
going to kill children and they're there they're showing up there regardless of
whether there is one more person calling to make an appointment or not shays
argument that a pro-lifer who makes a fake abortion appointment is leading the
abortionists or the nurses or the staff to participate in the sin of murder is
absolutely loony it's like saying that if i buy a bad magazine I'm leading the
seller of the magazine into sin well I'm not okay he's already selling it the

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only reason I can buy it is because he sells it and he sells it regardless of
whether I show up or not his store is open he offers the trash
and I buy it sin is in the will and the sellers will has already committed the
sin whether i buy it or not is actually quite accidental to the whole business
isn't there some other job out there for
mark che aren't they looking for someone to plant trees in the Vatican or
something anyway we have the mark che audio linked on the trad cast show page
at trot cast dot org and that is going to be the full 45 minute podcast from
the original source okay so just to give
you the whole thing so nobody can say we left something out or only gave you a
piece okay time now to look at the Catholic moral theology applicable here

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from the excellent work moral theology a complete course based on st. Thomas
Aquinas and the best modern authorities by father's John a McHugh and Charles
Jake Allen both Dominicans and we'll put a link on the trap cast show page for
this as well of course let me actually preface the following quote by saying
that Catholic teaching on the immorality
of lying is very nuanced okay I can only quote a bit here and i'll quote the
parts that are most applicable to the case we're dealing with now we'll need
to briefly define the terms that will be used in this excerpt from this moral
theology text okay we're going to hear about three different kinds of lies
pernicious lies Oh fishes lies and joke hoes lies and in addition to that we're

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also going to hear about simulation and dissimulation a pernicious lie is one
intended to harm someone an officious lie is intended to help someone and a
joke hoes lie is told to amuse someone in fun simulation and dis simulation are
a kind of lying in words but in actions okay so if you
if you pretend like if you if you act surprised when you're not surprised or
you you pretend you are afraid or whatever so with this in mind let's now
have a look at what father's McHugh and Callen teach about lying in words and
deed and I'm quoting here from sections 2394 2395 and 2403 if you'd like to look

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it up yourself as well quote lies are aggravated by the purpose to harm and
the greater the harm the greater the sin
thus the worst of all pernicious lies is
that which is directed against God as in false religious doctrine and the lie
that harms a man in spiritual goods is worse than a lie that harms in temporal
things only lies are mitigated by the purpose to help and the greater the good
intended the less the sin in other words lies that are not pernicious are not so
bad as pernicious lies Oh fishes lies are less sinful than joke hos lies a
fish's lies told for the sake of some great good aren't not so grave as those
told for the sake of a lesser good thus it is a less evil to lie in order to
save a man's life than to lie in order to take his life it is less sinful to
lie in order to spare another the shock of bad news than to lie for the sake of

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embellishing a tale it is a less offense to lie in order to ward off bodily harm
than to lie in order to prevent a financial loss but the lies are unequal
in sinfulness it remains that no lie even the smallest such as our called
fibs or white lies is ever justified even by the greatest good for a lie is
intrinsically evil and the end does not justify the means ally considered
precisely as a lie seems from its nature
to be only a venial sin for the disorder
of using signs against one's mind is not serious and the harm done society by
mere denial of truth is not necessarily grave the case would be otherwise if
truth could be denied on principle as a lawful thing simulation teaches error

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and dissimulation hides truth from those who have no right to it that this
simulation is generally recognized as lawful is seen from such examples as
stratagems ambushes camouflage and wore disguises in detective work and
concealment of marriage by couples not ready for housekeeping unquote now you
can see that this is all very complex much more complex than marché would have
you believe by the way we remember the beautiful story of Judith in the Old
Testament Judith who is an Old Testament type or foreshadowing of the Blessed
Mother the Virgin Mary was called quote the glory of Jerusalem the joy of Israel
the honor of our people unquote that's a quote from judith 15 verse 10 and she

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was called that because she defeated the terrible mighty pagan general Hall of
fur knees she did so by tricking the Assyrians to allow her to see halle
furnace and with her great beauty and clever speech she made holofernes
believe that she was defecting from the Jews to the Assyrians and so holla ferny
celebrated the occasion and got drunk and while he was sleeping she went ahead
and cut off his head thus defeating the terrible general of the Assyrian army
and by this she gave the victory to the Hebrews you can read about this in
Judith chapter 10 and onwards now scriptural commentators are not all in
agreement over how to assess morally what Judith did here I
think bishop challoner gives the best comments on the issue so let me quote
that he says quote some things are related to have been set by Judith which

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seemed hard to reconcile with truth but all that is related in Scripture of the
servants of God is not approved by the scripture and even the Saints in their
enterprises may sometimes slip into venial sins unquote and on this point
the father's we quoted earlier McHugh and Kalyn also speak about this and they
say quote it seems that we should regard as officious lies various statements
made by Jacob David and Judith unquote and that's again moral theology and it's
section number 23 92 by father's McHugh and Kalyn an officious lie we remember
is one that's defined as a lie that is told for a good purpose in order to help
or serve another so in this case in the case of Judith it would be Judith lying

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to the Assyrian watchman and holofernes in order to defeat the Assyrians and
bring victory to her people okay so father's McHugh and Callen are saying
that this would have to be regarded as an officious lie okay so this is the
true Catholic teaching about these matters and you didn't get it from mark
Shay imagine that right by the way we should mention here how to Novus Ordo
big shot Cardinals reacted to the Planned Parenthood videos for one thing
there was mr. Sean O'Malley the supposedly great conservative pro-life
Archbishop of Boston who gave what can only be described as a verbal slap on
the wrist on july twenty ninth he said this make sure you're sitting down

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both actions and and by that he's referring to abortion and then the
harvesting of aborted baby organs and tissue both actions fail to respect the
humanity and dignity of human life this fact should be the center of attention
in the present of public controversy unquote wow what a stinging denunciation
huh but it got worse because they're still Chicago's arch laymen blaze sue
pitch who was just recently appointed to his post by Pope Francis now sue pitch
is the epitome of everything that is wrong with the modernist Vatican to sect
okay sue said the following and I'm not kidding quote while commerce in

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the remains of defenseless children is particularly repulsive we should be no
less appalled by the indifference toward the thousands of people who died daily
for lack of decent medical care who are denied rights by a broken immigration
system and by racism who suffer in hunger joblessness and want who pay the
price of violence in gun saturated neighborhoods or who are executed by the
state in the name of justice unquote Wow mr. su pitch and yes that's all he is
mr. su pitch has the gall to equate the burning with acid and ripping a part of
live children who can feel pain by the way with someone who's suffering because
he has no job or because he encountered problems with the American immigration

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system and he equates it with the just execution of convicted killers this guy
is a dirtbag thank God that he's not actually the Archbishop of Chicago or
even a Catholic but only a layman in a fancy costume
holding a position in a modernist sect super-g is so bad even March che can't
stand him and that brings us back to where we started mark Shay's comments on
the Planned Parenthood undercover videos let's summarize ladies and gentlemen
let's summarize if the pro-lifers the ones who exposed Planned Parenthood the
ones who did the undercover videos if the pro-lifers lied which is not
necessarily so but quite likely if they lie to be able to secretly record and
expose the horrific atrocities committed by Planned Parenthood then that was

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wrong and not justifiable however it was most likely only a venial sin and it is
nothing to get bent out of shape over the guilt of the sin is lessened by the
great good obtained and of course it pales in comparison to the heinous acts
confessed to buy the Planned Parenthood people in the video to focus on the
pro-lifers lying to not about lying to baby killers in order to expose them as
a greater evil than the hacking to death
of children is absolutely despicable but I guess it's not surprising considering
that it's coming from Mark che we got to take a break

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tragg cast ignore this podcast at your own risk trap cast is a production of
Novus Ordo watched org we watch the Vatican to church so you don't have to
go to Novus Ordo watch Don org Novus Ordo watch org and see for yourself that
the Vatican to church is not in fact the Catholic Church of the ages
alright we're back second segment in this portion of the program we're

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going to talk about Bishop Richard Williamson and his comments on the new
mass so called the Novus Ordo me say of Paul the sixth and later we're also
going to talk about bishop quote unquote ethin asia's schneider and his recent
informal endorsement of the Society of st. Pius the tenth and how Michael Voris
ended up with lots of egg on his face because of that
so first Bishop Williamson in case you didn't hear about it Bishop Richard
Williamson formerly with the Society of Saint pies the 10th and now on his own
with the so-called resistance group that's all the clerics who left the SSPX

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because the SSPX was no longer sspx enough for them well he gave a talk in
late june i believe it was june of this year in new york and he was asked by a
lady in the audience whether it was ever permissible to attend the new mass the
modernist worship service of the Vatican to church now Williamson's answer was
nothing short of hysterical he talked for 10 minutes and essentially said yes
no maybe and don't ask me I'm not kidding right he was all over the place
and what he said was so contradictory and inconsistent that we decided to take
the video that was that was made of the
entire conference and also this this Q&A

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session and so we we decided to take that video and include our own subtitles
okay our own subtitles with critical commentary to be displayed along with
his words as he's giving his lengthy answer if you haven't seen that yet
please do have a look we've got the link up for you on track casts org look for
episode number 007 we have also published several blog posts on this
with our own comments and also one with bishop donald sanborns refutation of
Bishop Williamson and you'll definitely want to take a look at all this because
it is very revealing about the frightening theology used by Bishop
Williamson to argue his case Williamson basis his entire
kays on what attendance at the Novus Ordo mass can do for you God is left

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entirely out of the picture never mind it's the official worship of a false
religion a dangerous and non-catholics urge achill right that is intrinsically
offensive to God all of which Williamson
supposedly believes in his answer Bishop Williamson argues all of the following
and more listen closely he argues that the new mass is a key part of the new
religion and the worldwide apostasy he says stay away from the new mass he says
you can go to the new mass under certain
circumstances the new mass is wrong as a
whole if it nourishes your faith you can go and he says that this this seems to
be the absolute rule of rules if it nourishes your faith you can go but then
he also says you cannot cause scandal by going to the new mass and he says that

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Archbishop Lefebvre said that the new mass is a danger to the faith there are
you Christic miracles in the new mass he claimed the new religion of which the
new mass is a key part is dangerous and strangles grace the new mass can build
your faith the new mass does harm in itself and then he says decide for
yourself or ask a priest you trust and heed his advice maybe the right of the
new mass was designed to get you away from the Catholic faith he also says use
your own judgment if you can trust your own judgment and then he adds that all
of this is just his opinion and that it's almost heresy mm-hmm and he ends it
by saying that maybe all of this should have been said in private rather than in

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public are you dizzy yet yes so definitely watch our video on
this you definitely want to see the subtitles we superimposed on the video
as he's speaking and you'll also want to read our blog posts on this as well as
what bishops and Warren wrote oh and and in here here we should say something
about our critics my goodness Novus Ordo watch got slammed on a forum that shall
remain nameless ok accusing us of attacking the bishop and not linking to
the full video but only that particular question and answer part and we were
also accused of just trying to push a set of economist agenda and whatever let

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me say something about that first to say that we attacked the bishop is an
entirely emotional argument and actually
irrelevant to the point was it an attack perhaps so but this just begs the
question whether the bishop deserve to be attacked and honestly as we've shown
he most certainly did deserve to be criticized and truth be told we
criticized him on substance ok on the merits of his arguments we did not
attack this person we actually pointed out the frightening errors in his shoddy
theology ok now you can call this an attack or whatever but it's actually
irrelevant that wouldn't make our criticism wrong secondly the claim that
we didn't link to the full video is only half true because although we did not
link to the full video of the entire Williamson talk in our video response

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nevertheless we did link to the full video on the accompanying novel sort of
watch blog post secondly the claim that we didn't link to the full video
um is disingenuous because there is nothing in the remainder of the video
that changes anything the bishop said in the 10 minute answer he gave to the
question about the new mass okay but true the question came up one or two
more times later in that question and answer session but if anything what
Williamson said they're made it worse for him okay certainly not any better so
i would suggest just check it out for yourself okay just go and ah look at
listen to the the entire video the entire to our conference and listen very

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closely to the question-and-answer session and you decide if our criticism
has merit or not or whether we left anything out that it would change things
you decide for yourself okay where this time we're definitely putting the full
link to the video right there on trap cast org for this episode okay episode
number seven and just see for yourself and see if you agree that our criticism
has merit and that Bishop Williamson is putting forth a catastrophic
subjectivist Protestant modernist theology to defend his idea that you can
go to the Novus Ordo mass under certain circumstances trap cast finally our last
topic for today let's take a look at what has recently happened over at

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church militant Michael Morris's intrepid organization that is not even
allowed to call itself Catholic for the modernist Archdiocese of Detroit which
they recognized as the their legitimate Roman Catholic Diocese we like to call
church militant church Disneyland and you'll see why in a minute if you're not
already aware for a while now Michael Voris who is the
host of the popular vortex program would like to call it the ignore Tex or the
distort X Michael Voris has been pushing mr. athanasius Schneider a Novus Ordo
auxiliary bishop over in Kazakhstan as basically the the last great hope of the
church all right because Schneider is a very traditional-looking conservative in
the new church and he's exactly the kind

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of conciliar bishop that church militant likes to promote now just a month or so
ago Voris had this big exclusive interview with Schneider that he offered
to people who have a paid premium membership with church militant now
Schneider is no doubt sincere I don't want to question that at all but of
course that's really not relevant to the
fact that he is part of the hierarchy of the modernist church and he is still a
lineman because ordinations in the Novus Ordo religion are in fact not valid and
have not been since nineteen sixty eight
will give you a link for that so you can see this for yourself and of course all
sincerity and conservative inclinations whatever all the sincerity in the world

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cannot change that Schneider is a modernist layman now Michael Voris has
recently been attacking the Society of st. Pius the tenth and their
sympathizers left and right the SSPX is an Scism Voris insists and a Catholic
cannot have anything to do with them now
Voris is actually correct with regard to
the Scism charge because if Francis were Pope then yes the sspx would indeed be
in Scism because they fulfill the criteria for scizzin but that's not
important at the moment we're not criticizing Voris for considering the SSP
simatic instead what's really amusing here is that after all his huffing and
puffing against the SSPX and after all his promotion of bishop ethin asia
schneider as the the big bad conservative tough guy of of the church

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militant schneider now came out in an interview with adelante lafay and said
that the society of sin pi is the tenth seems catholic to him and he knows of no
weighty reasons for why they should be denied full canonical recognition by
Rome especially also in view of today's a chimerical climate to him they should
be accept that as they are in other words they should just be given
canonical regularization without having to change anything in their positions
oops bad news for Michael Voris for sure
looks like the Cossack bishop didn't get the memo on the SSPX ism well church
militant had practically no choice but to cover the story because this latest
Schneider interview was being promoted quite heavily at Rathi Chile and other

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sites the United States District of the SSPX was also quick to publish the
exciting news that Schneider said that they have the mind of the church which
is interesting because we've noticed that the SSPX always gets chipper when
some modernist hierarch recognizes them as catholic see if the same modernist
bishop had said that they are in Scism they would have just announced him as
yet another modernist and that you know whatever he says it doesn't matter and
he's wrong and whatever so to get back to church militant what did they do how
did they cover the story well they really really spun it and made it look
like Schneider was simply expressing his hope that the sspx would soon renounce
its ism and then church militant gratuitously inserted a comment into

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their report a comment from an American bogus Ordo Bishop mr. Robert Morley no
of Wisconsin who said that Catholics can't have anything to do with the SSPX
well that's fine except it has nothing to do with the bishop Schneider story
that they were supposedly reporting on well the story doesn't end there yet
because then Michael Voris clearly embarrassed and upset at Schneider's
quasi endorsement of the SSPX asked the Casa clay bishop for a clarification
which Wars then happily published and trumpeted on his website but even this
clarification didn't really help for us because she Neider didn't say anything
different and he certainly didn't say that the SPX isn't scizzum Christopher
Ferreira a neo-traditional commentator at the remnant who was really a favorite
target of ours um he slammed for us for his spinning of the Schneider interview

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and the Schneider clarification and said quote say good night mr. Forrest no one
but the dwindling number of the people you can still fool takes you seriously
any longer unquote which is exactly right and we predicted this from the
beginning we predicted that church militant was going to lose all
credibility when Michael Voris began to spin Frances into a traditionalist
conservative tough Catholic pope even though the facts were telling a
different story now here we should probably say something real quick about
the remnant okay whenever the question of the sspx Scism comes up you know is
the societies in pie is the tenth in Scism or not and of course this would
assume that Francis is actually the Pope but let's just assume that for the sake
of argument whenever that question comes

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up to my knowledge at least Ferreira and Matt never address the question
which would be the reasonable thing to do of whether the Society's implies the
10th fulfills the criteria necessary for the canonical crime of Scism you would
think that if you want to find out whether somebody's in scism you look at
what's ism is and then you see if that organization fits the criteria and they
never do that at least not to my knowledge and it is actually quite
obvious why they wouldn't because the SSPX fits the criteria to a tee instead
what they do is and this is very clever actually they always focus on who says
that they're in Scism or who says that they're not in Scism right and so when
that question comes up you'll always hear them talking about who Cardinal

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Cassidy said this and and whatever Cardinal custody own oils says that and
and you know Pope Benedict said this and John Paul the second said that and all
they ever do is talk about what different people different authorities
real or imagined say about the issue but that's ultimately not really relevant
the question is what is Scism and does the Society of st. Pius the 10th meet
the criteria my goodness what a circus anyway we've got all the relevant links
up on the trad cast page on the whole SSPX Michael Voris spin thing as well
and now you know why we call them church Disneyland
and this concludes episode number 7 hope you found this program informative and
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org but don't worry it will always be free until next time may God bless you you