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and now coming to you from an undisclosed location it's the Novus Ordo
watch trap cast you can't make the stuff up the end is near the end is near I'm

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talking about the end of 2015 of course and that means also the end of season
one of trap cast welcome by the way whether you meant to
or not you are now listening to episode number ten of trap cast produced by
Novus Ordo watch I wish we'd been able to crank out more
episodes but for it being the first year
I'd say this wasn't too bad you know the
weight rad cast is produced I don't know I think it's a bit like making sausage
the end result is great but you really don't want to see it made anywho so

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first of all my apologies I had pretty much promised to get you this episode a
lot faster than it actually came but sometimes things just don't go as
planned you know well one reason why it's so hard to stick to a schedule
these days of course is Frances you just can't leave the guy unattended once he
gets his jaw moving there's just no telling what's going to come out did you
hear the latest yet I mean the latest as
of this trap cast just a few days ago on December 27th no you know what actually

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for this one will play our special jingle one second from the Jorge Smith
there we go yeah this one so bad it deserves its own little jingle on
December 27 2015 which was holy family sunday in the nobles order Church chaos
Frank preached on the finding of our Lord in the temple the scriptural
passage is found in st. Luke's Gospel chapter 2 here is what Francis said and
I'm using the official English translation from the Vatican website
quote Joseph and Mary in the company of Jesus go as pilgrims to Jerusalem for
the feast of Passover at the end of that pilgrimage Jesus returned to Nazareth
and was obedient to his parents this image also contains a beautiful teaching

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about our families pilgrimage does not end when we arrive at our destination
but when we return home and resume our everyday lives putting into practice the
spiritual fruits of our experience we know what Jesus did on that occasion
instead of returning home with his family he stayed in Jerusalem in the
temple causing great distress to Mary and Joseph who were unable to find him
now listen to this for this little escapade Jesus probably had to beg
forgiveness of his parents the gospel doesn't say this but I believe that we
can presume it Mary's question moreover contains a certain reproach revealing
the concern and anguish which she and Joseph felt returning home Jesus surely
remained close to them as a sign of his complete affection and obedience moments

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like these become part of the pilgrimage of each family the Lord transforms the
moments into opportunities to grow to ask for and to receive forgiveness to
show love and obedience unquote this is blasphemy this is blasphemy you can read
the Sermon in full in context in English or also in
the Italian original we have the links for you on our show page look for a
track cast episode number ten at trap cast dot org blasphemy that's what it is
now here's what Saint Alphonsus Bishop confessor and doctor had to say about
this passage quote it is certain that to a soul which loves God there can be no
greater pain than the fear of having displeased him therefore in this sorrow
alone did Mary complain lovingly expostulating with Jesus after she had

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found him son why hast thou done so to us thy father and I have sought thee
sorrowing by these words she had no idea of reproving Jesus as heretics
blasphemously assert but only meant to express to him the grief proceeding from
the greatest love she bore him which she had experienced during his absence it
was not a rebuke says Dennis the carthusian but a loving complaint
unquote the words of Saint Alphonsus Liguori from his book the glories of
Mary and we've got that linked as well in our show notes and by the way in case
you're not aware this was by no means Francis's first blasphemy he's got a
whole laundry list of stuff one particularly outrageous example from the

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past is the joke he made in a book he co-authored with Rabbi Abraham skorka
his Talmudic Jewish buddy from Argentina this book I think it's called on heaven
and earth I think it's called on heaven and earth yeah that this was published
in 2010 and in this book he tells a joke in which the Blessed crucifixion of our
dear Lord Jesus Christ serves as the punch line will give you the all those
links as well on track casts org so Jorge bergoglio Pope Francis clearly a
repeat offender as far as blasphemy is concerned and honestly how anyone can
believe that this blaspheming apostate is the Pope of the Catholic Church is
beyond me but speaking of which folks we have put out a brand new video which we

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encourage you to watch and share with as many people as possible it's less than
seven minutes long and what the video does is address the question whether if
said of account ism is true the gates of
Hell have prevailed because we hear that a lot you know a lot of people think
that if Francis isn't the Pope or at least if there hasn't been up hope since
pi is the 12th then that must mean that the gates of Hell have prevailed but
really is that true what people need to understand is that the divine promise of
our Lord wasn't that the chair of st. Peter would never be vacant or vacant
only for a certain maximum amount of time no the promise was that the chair
of st. Peter would never fail but if Francis's Pope it has failed that's for
sure so go ahead and check out the video especially if you believe that Francis

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is Pope because we point out what you are required per Catholic dogma to
believe about Francis if you believe he's the Pope the video is linked on our
show page and it is again entitled have the gates of Hell prevailed so see what
you think and see if you can still a firm in good conscience that Francis is
Pope after seeing this video we also have an accompanying blog post to go
with that video which is substantial it is entitled said of a ism have the
gates of Hell prevailed against the church in that post which has a lot more
evidence the video does we take an in-depth look
at the promise of our Lord given to st. Peter in Matthew 16 18 thou art Peter
and upon this rock I will build my church and the gates of Hell shall not

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prevail against it and we then take a look at how the catholic church
understands this promise what she teaches regarding it and what she
teaches is meant by the gates of hell we also then show what the church fathers
and the churches approved theologians teach regarding the manifestation of the
operation of error and mystery of iniquity prophesied in second
Thessalonians 2 and how this can only be fulfilled if the papacy is temporarily
suspended if you will in other words only if the Pope is absent for a while
can the operation of error do its evil work and this is permitted and
prophesied to happen by God himself because the papacy since it is unfailing

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will always and necessarily restrain the soul destroying forces of evil so the
only way for them to succeed temporarily is for the chair of st. Peter to be
taken out of the way for a short while this does not come from from us from
Novus Ordo much this isn't our thinking or research this comes straight from the
19th century Cardinal Henry Edward Manning who bases all of his research on
this on the Fathers of the Church and a whole host of approved theologians over
the centuries in other words he presents the mind of the church on this ok so
look for that link as well in our show notes said of account ism have the gates
of Hell prevailed against the Catholic Church
so again the chair of st. Peter can be vacant / Catholic doctrine but it cannot

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fail if Francis's Pope it has failed it's that simple and the novels or dope
apices failure is so obvious now that even Michael matt has noticed yeah yeah
you know the editor of the remnant Michael Matt yeah recently he put out
another one of those remnant forum videos where he talks to his buddy Chris
Ferreira where they both always straighten out their Pope and try to
teach him the basics of Catholicism well on December nineteenth they published a
remnant forum video with the title Vatican scandals an appeal to pope
francis to stop the madness you know like he's going to stop because they
asked him to anyway at the 16 minute and 42 second mark Michael Matt cannot hold
it in any longer and he blurts out that this religion and the Vatican is not the
catholic church anymore and then he asks

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Ferreira to tell him what it is but here listen to it for yourself straight from
the video here it is what's going on Chris how much more ridiculous can this
come can this beacon is go and we continue to call it Catholic this isn't
the catholic church anymore what is it it's a massive on going down its 50th
year fraud upon the faithful a false religion being masqueraded as the
catholic religion not in any official way though there you go there you have
it Matt and Ferreira admit this is not the Catholic Church but a false religion
now Ferreira being the lawyer that he is of course had to throw in his little
convenient cop out that all this is not happening officially you know as in
officially it's the catholic church but in officially it's the of Babylon

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or the synagogue of Satan or some heretical Protestant sect or whatever
this is nuts not official mr. Ferrara really what we've been seeing since John
the 23rd all happened in officially Vatican to the new mass the 1983 code of
canon law the 1992 Catechism the 1993 ecumenical directory the countless
encyclicals speeches and other documents
the canonizations the marriage annulment
laws what all this was not official whom is he kidding now Matt asks how much
more ridiculous can it get well mr. Matt
it will get as ridiculous as people like you are willing to let it get because
it's people like you who are part of the problem because no matter what Francis

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does or says and I do mean no matter what you never draw any consequence from
it it doesn't make a hill of beans worth of a difference to you or your fellow
recognized but resist friends so why should Francis bother to change anything
he can say or do whatever he pleases because it is people like Michael Matt
who will still acknowledge him as the Pope of the Catholic Church and that is
all Francis needs to stay in power because all his power comes from
people's belief that he is the head of the Roman Catholic Church see he doesn't
care if people resist him what matters is that they agree that he is the Pope
that and that alone gives him all his power and that's why we've been saying

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folks dump Francis okay we'll take a quick break now and then we'll briefly
talk some more about John salsa Robert Cisco and their new book against set of
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if you're looking for EWTN this ain't it trap cast
welcome back glad you're still here this is trap cast number ten second segment

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and we are once again going to talk about the big bad book of bunk John
salsa and Robert Cisco were supposed to have published by now but that's been
postponed until at least January sixth allegedly because the devil has
interfered with the printing process which of course raises the question how
they know it was a fallen angel since there's been no declaration but okay
anyway in the last episode of trap cast we began examining a two-hour interview
of John salsa by Eric gujju ski the so-called trapkat night who believes he
is or might be the great Catholic monarch as he pays click farms in
Bangladesh to give him hits likes and followers so he can brag about how

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influential he is his website the track at night blog by the way currently has
166 million eight hundred and fifteen thousand four hundred and eighty total
pageviews as of December 30th 1007 p.m. eastern time actually well you've got to
at least try to be specific because I think this thing updates by the second I
know you can take a look at what it's at now as you're listening but anyway
heaven knows why John salsa thought the Erica juicy show was a good venue for an
interview but okay he'll have a lot more to be embarrassed about once we're done
demolishing the arguments in his new book but we are still going to comment
more on his interview I just haven't had the time to listen to and comment on
more of it since the last trap cast so since I didn't want to leave you without

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at least one or trap cast before the end of the year
we'll just have to skip it for this time but we definitely want to talk a little
bit about the interesting endorsements salsa and Cisco have been advertising on
their webpage endorsements of their new book you can find information about
their book and their website which is true or false Pope calm and that's where
you'll also find those endorsements now we have put up a web page to counter
them at true or false Pope's com that's Pope's with an S at the end plural that
will take you directly to our page and that again is true or false Pope's
dot-com so who's endorsing their book salsa has been making a big deal about
these great theologians and other people who have given their thumbs up on this

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work and if we take a look at the list here are the names that pop up now
listen closely and see if you can detect a pattern Christopher Ferreira John
vineri Michael matt brien McCall Tim staples Reverend Brian Harrison OS
father from soalan a sspx father Steven Reuter sspx fama Paul Robinson sspx
Robertson Janice and the forward written by Bishop Bernard filet sspx well that
was a surprise huh every single one of these people who have endorsed the book
already held the position that said of account ism is false these are basically
their own people John salsa and Robert cisco are having their own people

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endorse their work well whoop-dee-do now contrast this for example with father
anthony Chicanos book against the new mass entitled work of human hands which
received serious and fairly positive reviews even from people who are not sit
of a contest and some of whom disagreed with the author's liturgical position
that included dr. Jeffrey hall Reverend Andrew Wadsworth Reverend Al Quinn read
reven Mathias oj dr. Steven McInerney and Brian Mershon but these endorsements
for salsa and Cisco's book true or false
Pope are all from people who are already anti said of a contest anyway and we
might add for a large number of them their livelihood depends on francis
being Pope and while that doesn't mean that they can't endorse the book it does

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put these endorsements into perspective and weakens them considerably what makes
an endorsement really meaningful is if you have your book peer-reviewed
especially by peers who are critical of your position if they then say things
like this is challenging or this is an important contribution or this demands a
response or something along those lines then that is a serious endorsement but
not anti said of a contest saying hooray about a new book against said of Atkins
ism I mean come on but let's look at these endorsers a little more closely
who do we have there Chris Ferreira Michael Matt John vineri brine McCall
now precisely what sort of theological credentials do these people bring to the
table that would make their endorsements meaningful yeah didn't think so then we

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have Tim staples pan this kills me Tim staples is from the enemy camp he's with
Catholic Answers two years ago the remnant and like-minded people were very
upset at Tim staples for the two Catholic Answers radio shows he did on
what he called the rat trads the radical traditionalists and now these same
people are using him to endorse their work
how but it's again said of a contas own that's why you see even though staples
does not agree with sauces and Cisco's theological position either he does
agree with them that the charlatan since nineteen fifty eight have been troupe
hopes okay so that endorsement also not very convincing then the Reverend Brian
Harrison yeah well we could do a whole show just on him he believes Catholics

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worship the same God as Muslims he also believes unlike salsa and Cisco that
Vatican 2 did not teach error on religious liberty and some years ago he
wrote an article entitled white smoke valid Pope in which he argued that a
heretical Pope would govern the church validly but illicitly he was so
uninformed about theological matters that in that essay he even claimed that
Pope Pius the 12th temporary lifting of X communications for papal elections
meant that a heretic could be validly elected so the man is clueless okay so
exit mr. Harrison what else do we have here three sspx priests yeah yeah of
course they're going to endorse a book against set of account is improbably any
book father Steven Reuter was ordained in 2012 okay a little more than three

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years ago and he can't be older than 30 so that's not exactly a theological
heavyweight their father from swallow nay okay so at least he has been a
priest for quite a while and of course has also been anti said of a contest for
at least a long time that probably from the very beginning father Paul Robinson
ordained in 2006 fine but I don't know nothing special there either then we
have Robertson Jenna's now his endorsement has mysteriously disappeared
from the true or false Pope website and we have since found out that it is not
because he withdrew it he did not withdraw his endorsement we'll leave our
comments regarding doctors and jenna's for a later time lastly the forward was

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written by Bishop Fellay Bishop Bernard fillet the Superior General of the
societies in pies the 10th now surely this endorsement must count for
something right well not really because same issue here right he's the head of
the SSPX and obviously opposes said of a condom so why wouldn't he endorse the
book and as far as theological expertise well to our knowledge filet has not
written a single theological work on any
topic and he's not known as a theologian okay and besides it's his seminary that
is the publisher of the book the saws and Cisco book so no that's not an
impressive endorsement either so all in all there is really not a single really

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convincing endorsement of the book here it's all just hot air imagine what salsa
and Cisco would say if we said I've acontece wrote a book defending set of
account ISM and then presented endorsements by bishops sanborn Bishop
of Verona's followed shaqada Jerry matta takes tundra levski and Griff Ruby who
would take that seriously I mean anyone can endorse a book that's fine but
endorsements that are only by your own people are not very meaningful but
speaking of books I'd like to encourage anyone listening right now who is
sincerely and seriously interested in this debate on set of account ism to
read the newly re-released book michael davies and evaluation
by John Daly this work was originally published in 1989 and michael davies

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never responded to it despite being urged to do so by a number of people in
2015 author John Daly revised and expanded the book and has now released
it again free of charge I repeat free of charge available online electronically
at our website with the link at tratt cast dot org again look for episode
number ten so all you have to do is actually bother to read it I forget I
think it's roughly five hundred and eighty or so pages it is an extremely
thorough and serious eye opening and devastating evaluation of the work of
michael Davies not only does mr. Daly refute mr. Davies on all major points
regarding said of a Contessa manned a host of other issues he also

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demonstrates that Davies was shockingly slip shot in a scholarship and dishonest
in his argumentation and tactics daily takes no pleasure in pointing it out and
in fact he only does so because it is true and it is important for people to
know because Davies has been so influential and one will barely find an
english-speaking soul who considers himself a traditional Catholic and has
not been influenced by michael Davies in one way or another and yes daily does
also acknowledge that Davies has done a lot of good work as well but when you're
done reading this book you'll have to agree that michael Davies is finished
Davies passed away in 2004 so he had 15 years to respond to this powerful

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critique of him but unfortunately he chose not to get michael Davies and
evaluation by John Daly for free an electronic format as a PDF file or if
you like you can purchase a paperback copy through the link on our site at
trap cast dot org the book is very informative on a number of
traditionalist issues in general and you can read it with great benefit even if
you are not at all interested in the person of michael Davies in fact daily
answers a lot of the arguments we still here today including some from John
salsa and Robert Cisco so now you know what to read in the New Year and until
the next trap cast comes out this ladies
and gentlemen marks the end of trap cast
number 10 and the end of season one will be back in January God willing so until

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then have a happy new year and god bless you