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track cast number 30 you are entirely correct
welcome ladies and gentlemen to another episode
of the traditional roman catholic podcast that tells it like it is [Applause]
and that means we are not afraid to say we are sad of a contests
in other words we party like it's 1958 originally i was going to begin this
show with something else but what do you know breaking news out of vatican city
this past wednesday april 28th the man who calls himself pope francis
uttered a little bit of heresy at his general audience

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what's one more at this point he referred to our blessed lord as a quote
divine human person unquote now the infallible catholic dogma is
that our lord is a divine person only not a divine human person and you
might say wait wait a minute is our lord not both god and man yes he is
that is in his divine person are hypostatically united the eternal
divine nature and the created human nature so he is one person a divine person
who has two natures one human one divine that is the ancient catholic dogma
revealed by god but apparently that is not good enough
for jorge bergoglio the man currently playing pope

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and of course for him that wasn't even the first time using that term divine
human person in reference to our lord he'd used it before at least once
on december 30th 2015 also at a general audience
now could that have been simply a mistake an oversight
yeah i think that's possible perhaps not terribly likely but possible but then
that's just speculation at the end of the day
it doesn't matter the result is the same he spoke heresy
and that heresy has been broadcast on youtube and
published on the vatican website for the whole world
to see the catholic dogma that jesus christ has a divine nature
and a human nature united in one single divine person is clearly taught

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in any dogmatic theology textbook for example
in father ludwig ott's fundamentals of catholic dogma
where we read quote the dogma asserts that there is in christ a person
who is the divine person of the logos the word and two natures
which belong to the one divine person unquote and that's from page 144
of the popular 10 books reprint edition of 1974.
and this is the dogma even in the vatican 2 church
heck even tim staples of the novels ordo apologetics organization
catholic answers agrees with us on this in a 2018 article entitled is
jesus a human person he writes quote there is only one person

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or subject in christ and that person is god a divine person cannot change
into a divine human mix unquote precisely see the second person of the holy
trinity is obviously a divine person and this one divine person
could not possibly become or take on another person a human person
because then you would have two persons two different beings
one divine another human nor could the second person of the holy
trinity transform himself as it were into a divine human person
as francis turned it because that would mean
that god has changed which is impossible
it's a heresy to say that god can change he is immutable now

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for those who think that this is really not a big deal you know
divine person human per the human divine person
what's the difference let me remind you that a single letter a single iota
can make the difference between the true faith
and heresy there was once a controversy in church history
over a single letter over an iota which is the greek letter for i that was the
so-called homo ucion controversy and it goes back to the fourth century
where that single letter made all the difference
between christ being god or merely being like god in his essence
in the show notes for this episode you can find a link to
where the catholic encyclopedia discusses that whole issue
and you can find the show notes for this episode on the official

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tradcast webpage at tratcast.org simply scroll down to episode number 30
and click on that and it'll take you to that
so actually it's funny but uh that is the perfect segue now into what was
going to be my uh first story here today and that is
the release of a new book about some of france's many
heresies and errors it's roughly 440 pages in length and was released
on march 8th and i figure that many people probably
haven't heard about it yet it's called defending the faith
against present heresies letters and statements addressed to pope francis
the cardinals and the bishops with a collection
of related articles and interviews now to be clear this is not a state of a

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contest book its editors are john lamont and claudio pierontoni
both of them well known recognize and resist traditionalists
meaning they oppose francis and his theological junkyard but nevertheless
insist on acknowledging him to be the true pope
of the catholic church and vicar of christ
now that scenario a valid pope teaching dangerous errors and heresies
in his magisterium and nevertheless being the true pope and therefore
the teacher of all christians and the rule of faith for the entire church
that scenario is such a blatant contradiction
that the people who take this position have no choice but to abandon
at least implicitly what the church teaches
about the papacy and the magisterium in her traditional doctrine
but then of course that means that they're not really traditionalists

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and so that's why we like to call them semi-traditionalists or
pseudo traditionalists they think of themselves as
genuine traditionalists of course but when it comes to the catholic tradition
on the papacy they reject that sometimes explicitly sometimes
implicitly because francis just doesn't fit the bill we said of a contest
take a different approach one that is consistent
with catholic doctrine and that is we affirm
the true teaching and instead reject francis
because although it is possible that a man claimed to be pope who isn't
it is not possible that the perennial catholic teaching on the papacy
be false now that's it in a nutshell of course it's all a bit more
complicated than that and there are nuances and and so forth but
that's the long and the short of it anyway this new book defending the faith

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against present heresies contains the full text of the famous dubia
of the novel's order cardinals braun miller burke
kephara and meisner it also contains the filial correction that was issued in
2017 and four other statements and things against francis
and his teachings that you may recall were issued over the years
all of which predictably accomplished absolutely nothing why because as long as
francis is acknowledged to be the pope he wins which is not surprising
considering that the pope as such is a monarch
he is the highest catholic authority on earth
and he is subject to no one and can be judged by no one
that's how it works in the catholic church
so if you think that you can challenge francis or

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force him to do something while recognizing him as pope
you're quite mistaken and the proof is in the pudding
i mean look at it what does francis do with undesirable circumstances
he ignores them out of the four ordo cardinals who submitted the dubia in 2016
the dubia are requests for doctrinal clarification regarding what is taught
in the exhortation amoris leticia out of those four cardinals two have
already died francis will just ignore the matter until the problem goes away
all by itself and he can get away with it
because the secular and church media are on his side
at least for the most part so what if some dozen prelates or scholars issue
some accusation or correction against francis
he'll ignore it and while the semi-trad and conservative bloggers and media

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outlets are busy reporting and commenting on it francis just keeps going
he keeps making bad appointments he keeps writing bad documents
he keeps calling bad sentence he keeps making bad laws
he keeps giving bad speeches and sermons and so on
that's what he's been doing and quite effectively
so while the semi-trads are trying so hard to do a good thing by proving his
teachings to be false and sometimes even heretical
it's ultimately just a big distraction because they cannot win
for as long as they accord him the very status
then gives him all his destructive power namely the papacy
anyway in the show notes we're including a link to this book
and we're also linking our extensive analysis of the open
letter accusing francis of heresy that the semi-trads released back in 2019

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our analysis makes a very powerful case well documented against the convoluted
resistance theology that these people have been using and
spoiler alert i'm going to give you now a one sentence summary of the entire
piece the signatories of the open letter used heretical theology to ask heretics
to accuse their pope of heresy yeah no wonder that didn't go anywhere
all right let's go ahead and uh look at some objections against
the state of akana's position now and uh formulate a response one
objection that i've seen come up is if the catholic church was so robust and
the faith was so strong before vatican 2 then how come so many people went along

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with the modernist revolution why did so many people fall for it
now that's a good question to ask but i think it has a very clear and fairly
simple answer because the catholic faith demands submission to the pope
and all the changes came from someone who appeared to be the pope
that is what made the revolution so successful
they had to put in a false pope that would be recognized
as the true one and that's exactly what they did
now it is a dogma of the catholic faith that the pope has a primacy of
jurisdiction over each and every catholic in his encyclical quanticora of 1864
pope pius ix was adamant that submission to the pope
cannot be reduced merely to the acceptance of dogmatic definitions

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here's what he said quote nor can we pass over in silence the audacity of those
who not enduring sound doctrine contend that
without sin and without any sacrifice of the catholic profession
ascent and obedience may be refused to those
judgments and decrees of the apostolic see whose object is declared to concern
the church's general good and her rights and discipline
so only it does not touch the dogmata of faith and morals
but no one can be found not clearly and distinctly to see and understand how
grievously this is opposed to the catholic dogma of the full
power given from god by christ our lord himself to the roman pontiff
of feeding ruling and guiding the universal church unquote that's paragraph five
of the encyclical quanta quora and this was taught dogmatically at the

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first vatican council in 1870 quote if anyone thus speaks
that the roman pontiff has only the office of inspection
or direction but not the full and supreme power of jurisdiction
over the universal church not only in things which pertain to faith and morals
but also in those which pertain to the discipline and government of the
church spread over the whole world or that he possesses only the more
important parts but not the whole planitude of the supreme power
or that this power of his is not ordinary and immediate
or over the churches altogether and individually
and over the pastors and the faithful altogether and individually
let him be anathema unquote and that's found in chapter three of the
dogmatic constitution pastor eternus you can find that in denzinger 1831.

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so yeah that is how the modernists were able to pull it off
that is why so many people accepted the revolution
it came from the very top it came from the apparent
popes starting with john the 23rd and that's important to remember in fact
because sometimes people will make it seem like it was all a matter of
disobedient lower clergy that introduced abuses
and interpreted the council in a wrong way and and so on you know some of that
is no doubt true but that's ultimately not how the revolution was imposed it
came from the top it was john the 23rd who had the idea for an ecumenical
council and who was very imprudent and arrogant about
getting it to start as early as 1962 when his assistants were telling him
that there was no way they could get everything prepared in time for it to

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start by 63 even he didn't care he wanted his counsel
and then look at the people he appointed alongside many good and orthodox
prelates he rehabilitated and appointed a lot of bad
theologians people who'd been censored who'd been silenced who were
already under investigation by the holy office for
suspicion of heresy you know men like joseph ratzinger eve congar and carl
rauner that was john the 23rd doing that and of course the funny thing is it was
john xxiii himself as angelo roncalli who was one of those
marked suspect of heresy by the holy office so that fits actually and
you can find that confirmed in in any decent biography
on on john the 23rd okay i mean it's no secret
it's it's definitely uh not something disputed even

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so don't forget that the entire mess we're in
was the work of the false popes that came on the scene in 1958
and after it was their decisions their counsel their magisterium their canon law
their curia that imposed all of those things
in 1960 two years before the council even began
john xxiii had already instituted what was then called the
secretariat for promoting christian unity so he was very eager to kick off the
ecumenical agenda even before the council even made ecumenism official
for this new church because remember before john the 23rd there was no ecumenism
for a catholic i mean not what what is known as ecumenism today the only type of
ecumenism if you want to call it that that was acceptable

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before john the 23rd was that of bringing non-catholics into the catholic church
by converting them by showing them that their heretical
sects were false and that the catholic church
alone is the true church founded by our blessed lord jesus christ
himself so for example pope pius xi wrote in 1928
quote the union of christians can only be promoted
by promoting the return to the one true church of christ
of those who are separated from it for in the past they have
unhappily left it unquote that's from the encyclical mortalium animals
paragraph 10. and to clarify the reason pius xi says that protestants have left
the catholic church even though of course he is well aware that most
protestants alive at the time had probably been
raised in their heretical sects and didn't start out as catholics and then

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converted to protestantism the reason pius xi says that they
left the catholic church is that they are validly baptized
let me just briefly explain this because
there's a lot of confusion about this in our day
especially because vatican ii muddied the waters
and actually taught error on this first the true catholic teaching is the
following and i'm just going to quote from monsignor gerard van nort's book
christ's church the revised english edition published in 1957
please bear with me here because this is a longer quote but it tells you all you
need to know so that's why i want to quote it in full when senior van nort
christ's church pages 245 and 246 quote from the fact that baptism is properly
the cause of engrafting into the church two facts

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follow a all validly baptized babies even if they were baptized by heretics
and in the midst of dissident christian sects
are members of the roman catholic church the baptismal character conjoins them
not to any sect but to the church of christ moreover
since such children are incapable of rational activity
human acts they cannot cut themselves off from the church
by acts of heresy or schism neither can they be separated by the sword of
excommunication forex communication presumes guilt
such children consequently remain members of the church
until after reaching the age of reason they separate themselves from the church
by entering into heresy or sism publicly and if in so doing they act in good
faith they are not deprived of all relationship with the catholic church

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still they are not catholics they have severed
even though blamelessly one of the bonds requisite for actual membership in the
church should they become converted in mature life it is often a comfort to them
to know they are not betraying an ancestral spiritual heritage
but simply returning to their father's house b all validly baptized persons
always objectively remain subject to the church here it is important to
distinguish between being subject to the church
and being a member of the church the former term has a far wider connotation and
extension consequently though all its members are subject to the church
not all its subjects are members so for example a visitor in a foreign land is
temporarily subject to the laws of that land

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again a soldier who is a deserter is legitimately tried and punished
by the army authorities yet neither the visitor nor the soldier
is strictly speaking a member of the society to which he is subject similarly
even though public heretics public systematics and total excommunicates are not
actually members of the church they are never
completely deprived of all relationship to the church for the baptismal
character once received by these people is indelible
and although they prevent its unifying force by their own actions
which considered purely abstractly and objectively
are evil they do not thereby destroy that character that is why as long as
they live by law and obligation they belong to the church
and are subject to its jurisdiction even though they may be in invincible

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ignorance on both counts they are like sheep wandering outside the sheepfold
whether they fled from it of their own accord or were put out of it
for a time because of some disease they are not
exempted from the power of the shepherd unquote so that
is the traditional pre-vatican ii teaching about the consequences of a valid
baptism received by people who are not catholics
and that is the reason why pope pius xi and all true popes really treat
protestants and other validly baptized non-catholics
who profess to be christians as having left the church and needing to
return to her even if they spent their entire lives in
a protestant sect and never left the church in the sense in which
that is usually understood so anyway the traditional teaching is very clear

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it's not confusing it's not wishy-washy it's pretty black and white so let me
elaborate a little bit here and point out that there are
four types of non-catholics non-catholics are either infidels by which we mean
people who have never been baptized or their sismatics by which we mean
baptized people who although they adhere to the true
faith nevertheless refuse to submit to the lawful pope or refuse to maintain
communion with other members of the church or they're heretics by which we mean
baptized people who profess to be christians but reject one
or more catholic dogmas and lastly there is the category of apostates
by which we mean baptized people who have totally
abandoned the faith either in that they no longer even claim
to be followers of christ and either become atheists or

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agnostics or join another religion such as buddhism judaism islam etc or
embrace a heresy that completely undoes all of god's revelation such as
modernism naturalism or indifferentism so you can guess which of these
categories pope francis falls into right he is of course
an apostate and if that wasn't obvious before february 4th 2019 it was
definitely obvious then because that's the day he signed the
declaration on human fraternity with the muslim grand imam
of al-azhar ahmad al-tayeb which we've linked in the show notes and
what does that declaration it says that god wills there to be
a diversity of religions in the same way as he wills there to be different sexes

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races colors and languages i mean if you affirm that there is nothing left of
catholicism if god wants a diversity of religions then jesus christ is not god
then religion really has no meaning then god did not reveal anything
and all religions are false anyway the point being here that
protestants are not catholics they're heretics they're not
members of the true church established by christ
and if they want to be part of the true church then they must abandon their
errors and convert to the only church established by jesus christ
the holy roman church which is one holy catholic and apostolic
so that's the traditional catholic teaching
it was all crystal clear for 1900 years but then came vatican ii

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that abominable council threw a monkey wrench into it all
by saying that all who are validly baptized and profess faith in christ are
members of his body members of the body of christ
on account of their baptism regardless of whether they're catholics orthodox
lutherans methodists whatever if they're baptized and believe in christ
they're members of his body according to vatican ii
this is what the decree on ecumenism states quote for men who believe in christ
and have been truly baptized are in communion with the catholic church
even though this communion is imperfect all who have been justified by faith in
baptism are members of christ's body and have a right to be
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brothers by the children of the catholic church unquote that's vatican ii decree
unitatus red integrazio number three promulgated by paul the sixth in 1964.
so vatican ii introduces the idea that you can be a member of christ's
body and yet not be a member of the catholic church that is in direct
contradiction to pope pius xii teaching that quote
the mystical body of christ and the roman catholic church are one and the same
thing unquote that was taught in the 1950 encyclical humanities
number 27 but according to novel's order doctrine
you can be a member of the body of christ without

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being a catholic you're just in partial or imperfect communion with the catholic
church and the roman pontiff do you see how that wreaks havoc on everything
now why did vatican 2 do that why did that ungodly council change the
teaching on the church and on church membership and all that
quite simply because this was necessary for ecumenism vatican ii
needed to find a way to open up the catholic church to the ecumenical movement
and of course there was no way to do that with the traditional ecclesiology
right the participants in the ecumenical movement won't accept you if you insist
that you alone are right and they're all wrong
and they need to join you because you're the true church
right that's not that's not going to fly so

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vatican 2 had to find a way to get the foot in the door somehow
and that's how they did it and so notice this isn't just a difference
in disciplinary approach this opening on ecumenism is grounded in a
doctrinal change and that is why you find that changed doctrine in the council's
dogmatic constitution lumengencium number eight
where it says that the church christ it subsists in the catholic church
as opposed to the prior teaching that the church christ founded
is the catholic church and you can read more about that in our post
entitled christian unity without catholicism francis spews ecumenical bilge at
general audience which is linked in the show notes

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so remember that next time you hear that vatican ii is all just pastoral right
no it's not and besides pastoral is not the opposite of dogmatic or doctrinal so
the two aren't mutually exclusive anyway i guess you could say that pastoral
refers more to action to what is to be done and dogmatic
refers to what is to be believed but it goes without saying that the two
must obviously be in sync with each other since action flows from belief the
church's actions are in accordance with her beliefs and teachings at the
very least her actions cannot contradict what she teaches and believes
so don't fall for this pastoral counsel nonsense if vatican 2 came from a true
pope then it is salutary safe binding and orthodox if on the other hand
you recognize as a theological junkyard then it's absolutely certain that it

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didn't come from a true pope this isn't that hard to figure out
is it so it's clear that at least on ecumenism vatican 2 abandoned
perennial church doctrine and of course no one has been more emphatic on that
than jorge bergoglio right pope francis he called it a great sin
against ecumenism to convert someone from the eastern orthodox to catholicism
that happened in 2016. well it's nice to know that bergoglio does believe in sin
isn't it and now you know how the vatican ii revolution was successful despite
its craziness because it came from false popes
that appeared to be true popes and were accepted by most
as such how is that possible how is it possible that virtually the whole church

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accepts false popes as true popes i hope to discuss that at some length in
a future blog post for now let me just say that i think there's no
quick and easy answer to that at least for the time being perhaps we'll
just have to contend ourselves with the knowledge that no matter what the
explanation is as to how that is possible we know they're false popes because by
their magisterium they've led the people who adhere to it into abandoning
the catholic faith into rejecting the roman catholic religion as it was known
until the death of pope pius xii in 1958 and such a thing is impossible
for true popes to do because it is tantamount to a defection of the church
well look if it were possible there'd be no point to the papacy

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because christ instituted it precisely so that the faithful would always have a
sure guide to safely follow in matters of faith and morals
by clinging to the pope the faithful can rest assured
that they are with the true church and the true faith
that they are with christ and that is what distinguishes the holy see
from all the other dioceses in the world
because although any and all bishops and dioceses
could fall from the faith and could defect into heresy or schism
the roman sea can never do that for as long as there is a true pope
reigning that is and no i'm not just saying that this
follows clearly from the perennial papal teaching
about the papacy we've got that linked for you in the show notes it's a whole
collection of quotes straight from the papal magisterium
over centuries it's not complete of course

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but some of the best possible excerpts are found there
and those are teachings you never hear quoted from the
non-said of akana's traditionalists from those who claim to be
keeping the old faith but except francis and his five predecessors
as true popes and i think i know why it doesn't fit the vatican two popes
don't fit the catholic teaching on the papacy because they're not popes
so here's a quick rule of thumb for you that'll come in handy
if francis is not the rule of faith if francis is not
keeping the gates of hell from prevailing then he's not the pope because that's
what a true pope does not just what he's supposed to do
it's what he actually does yes even pope honorius can check the show notes

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for a link on that wow time flies why do i always talk so much
well let's get to a second objection that i hear a lot
and that is that saint of accountism must be false
because there are eucharistic miracles in the vatican ii
church the short answer is no there aren't but you probably want to
hear the longer answer well the longer answer is this first the
catholic church is always very skeptical with regard to the claims
of genuine miracles the church does not rush to accept alleged miracles as true
because it would be highly imprudent to do so
because imagine if the church rashly recognized something as miraculous
and then later someone discovers that it really wasn't a miracle that there's a

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perfectly normal explanation for it well the church would lose all
her credibility see nothing is served nothing is gained
by rushing to accept as authentic a reported miracle
and so only after long careful investigation and only after all other possible
explanations have been definitively exhausted does the church ever pronounce
a miracle as authentic and even then the church only permits belief in the
miracle and doesn't require it and yet nowadays people are very quick to accept
something as miraculous simply because they've seen it on tv they've seen it on
youtube or they've seen photos on some blog or some person they trust
has told them that there's been a miracle that's
very imprudent our first reaction to reported miracle

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should always be one of doubt and skepticism if we lived in say 1946 instead of
2021 if there were would appear to be a miracle
we would submit the case to the local bishop and i don't know possibly will be
brought to the holy see for a judgment but the exact process doesn't matter
here the point is that it is for the church to judge whether a true miracle
has occurred or not and we see that for example even with the miracle of the sun
at fatima on october 13th 1917. that was witnessed by somewhere between
50 seventy thousand people and yet the church didn't immediately accept it
it took thirteen years until nineteen thirty for the church to officially
declare it worthy of belief so remember that the church herself does not rush

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to accept claims of miracles and so we shouldn't either okay don't jump to
conclusions when you hear someone say there's been a miracle don't believe it
now in our day submitting a purported miracle to the church for authentication
is not an option so the safest thing to do is simply to ignore
any reported miracle that's always entirely safe
because we already know everything we need to know
to save our souls right i mean we have that in
traditional church teaching we have everything we need to know in our
traditional catechisms and we know that's correct
we know that's true we know we have to follow that
so you know in that sense there's really no need
for some private revelation or miracle of course some people will say now that
you should just submit your alleged miracle to the novus ordo church
because that is the true church but since that's the very issue under discussion

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it's not a legit argument you can't have the novels order church authenticate a
miracle and then use that miracle as proof that the novice order church is true
right that's a circular argument first you use the new church to prove the
miracle and then you use the miracle to prove the new church
can't do it now the ultimate author of any genuine miracle
obviously is god we know that the catholic church is god's church and therefore
we know that her teachings are true but that means that if anything now
contradicts this true body of doctrine that we've received from the church
then it cannot be from god and whether you're conservative nova sorto
or city of a contest or in between all of us agree that until pope pius the
12th death in 1958 what was taught and believed then is indisputably true

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because if it was true then it has to be true now
so when the vatican ii church then comes along with all these new ideas and
practices that are repugnant to the catholic religion of
1958 and before then we know that we must dismiss any claims about miracles
in that new religion because any such miracles cannot be real
because god would have to be the author of them
and then god would be contradicting himself because
he would be giving credence to that new and false religion
so while we do not have access to the church's judgment now
on any particular alleged miracle in our day
what we can do first of all is look at who or what is being served by that
claimed miracle for example a eucharistic miracle at the new mass
would obviously imply that god approves of the new mass

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impossible it would also mean that god endorses the vatican ii
church likewise impossible that's the church that continually spits him in the
face with ecumenism in religious dialogue
saying that protestant sects are used as means of salvation
that god wants there to be different religions human fraternity is the way to go
instead of christ the king and so on and so forth and here we're
talking about the official teachings and the official acts of the
novel sort of church so all that is enough to know
that any purported miracle that would confirm
and authenticate this garbage must be false
now that is not to say that the people who are reporting
such supposed novel sort of miracles are all malicious deceivers or anything of

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the kind they might be but they could also be sincere
so this is not a judgment on any individuals
right we're more than happy to leave that to god it's not about judging people
it's about making a judgment about the event that is claimed to be miraculous
so the long and the short of it is just because someone shouts miracle
and there's something that looks miraculous at first sight and you can't
explain it doesn't mean there's a real miracle there
and remember too that the eastern orthodox for example
claim to have a miracle of the holy fire in jerusalem
the day before easter every year but god cannot contradict himself
there's no way he could establish the catholic church as his church and
then work a miracle in favor of the eastern orthodox religion because that's
a systematic and heretical religion so it's impossible

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and likewise with the vatican ii church god cannot
on the one hand want all non-catholics to become
catholics and be subject to the roman pontiff
and then also on the other hand endorse vatican ii ecumenism
god always remains the same he doesn't change
the god whose church taught for 1900 years
that non-catholics must become catholic can't now all of a sudden approve of a
church that says no that isn't so so with all of that it's clear that we
ought not to pay any attention to these purported eucharistic miracles
in the vatican ii church if they're not miracles
what are they honestly there's no need for us to explain these phenomena
because we know from our adherence to the indisputably true catholic religion

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that these phenomena are not miracles from god and that's all that matters in
ii thessalonians chapter 2 verse 9 saint paul mentions that the coming of
the antichrist will be accompanied by lying wonders
and yet how many will run after the antichrist screaming miracle miracle
because he'll do stuff they can't explain there is a lot actually that human
nature can accomplish that looks beyond the powers of nature when
in fact it isn't you can read in exodus chapter 7 how moses and
aaron work miracles before pharaoh true miracles and yet pharaoh's magicians
mimic those miracles with their own trickery
and then of course there are things that demons can do that are beyond
our natural capacity but that are not impossible for angelic beings
and that's what demons are they're fallen angels

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so the mere appearance of a miracle does not mean there is a real miracle
and of course our blessed lord warned us himself
against false miracles against deceptive signs and wonders
that will be so powerful that they would deceive if it were possible
even the elect and the elect are the people who actually will be saved in saint
matthew's gospel chapter 24 verses 24 through 26
our lord speaks about the end of the world and here's what he says quote
for there shall be then great tribulation such as hath not been from
the beginning of the world until now neither shall be
and unless those days had been shortened no flesh should be saved
but for the sake of the elect those days shall be shortened
then if any man shall say to you lo here is christ

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or there do not believe him for there shall arise
false christs and false prophets and shall show great signs and wonders
in so much as to deceive if possible even the elect behold i have told it to
you beforehand if therefore they shall say to you behold
he is in the desert go ye not out behold he is in the closets
believe it not unquote and that would be my ultimate response
to the claim of eucharistic miracles in the new mass in the vatican ii church
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because there is lots more to come in this episode number 30 of tradcast
it's novos ordo watch for your ears except no imitations
you know i have to chuckle when i hear novel sort of prelates talk about how it
is such a scandal that christians are divided
and therefore we need to be ecumenical we have an obligation to come together
so we can give a credible witness to the world
i chuckle at that because these are the same people who are now saying that god
wills there to be many different religions because that's diversity
and it's an expression of the divine wisdom
well which is it is it a scandal that there are different religions
or is it the result of god's wisdom is it a problem that needs to be
repaired or does god positively want it to be this way they can't have it

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both ways all right on to some more things here i
have to say i find it amazing how many people love to talk about how
the novus order church is a false church with a counter magisterium and
false shepherds and all that and yet somehow
they can't figure out that then francis must be a false pope
really it's incredible the chief among them now is father carlo maria vigano
the former vaticanuncio to the united states who's been blasting france's left
and right he's still in hiding and when he's not
writing forwards to other people's books he cranks out one message after another
that gets posted on the big semi-tried websites like catholic family news
the remnant one peter 5 and even life site which is more of a conservative novel
sort of site but at this point it all kind of runs together because
they're all in agreement that the current holy father

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teaches and legislates dangerous spiritual poison and well apparently
they think that as long as dangerous spiritual poison is taught by a real
catholic pope instead of an imposter then the
indefectability of the church is saved got it
by the way do these people ever think about what they're saying you know christ
instituted the papacy as the perpetual safe guide for
catholics to arrive at eternal salvation if by loyally following the pope you
could actually end up being led right into the mouth of the antichrist
would that say about christ it's blasphemy
christ instituted the papacy so that we would follow the pope
not so that we would protect the rest of the church from the pope
the papacy is a divine institution it is not a human institution christ

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protects the papacy throughout history and in our day he protects it by keeping
it from being validly occupied by apostates
like francis the semi-trads though have reduced the papacy to utter
meaninglessness to the status of protestant pastorship where the congregation
follows the pastor as long as they determine that he's teaching the
biblical truth and when they determine that he's not
doing that or they can't verify it well then either they ignore him or they
resist him or they get him removed but they certainly don't follow him
now if if that's all the papacy is then christ didn't establish it because then
it's just a human and not a divine institution and then we
certainly don't need it and here let me say a few words about
the perpetual successors argument the first vatican council teaches the
following in the dogmatic constitution pastor eternas

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chapter 2. quote what the chief of pastors and the great pastor of sheep
the lord jesus established in the blessed apostle peter
for the perpetual salvation and perennial good of the church
this by the same author must endure always in the church
which was founded upon a rock and will endure firm
until the end of the ages surely no one has
doubt rather all ages have known that the holy
and most blessed peter chief and head of the apostles and pillar of faith and
foundation of the catholic church received the keys of the kingdom from
our lord jesus christ the savior and redeemer of the human race
and he up to this time and always lives and presides and exercises
judgment in his successors the bishops of the holy see of rome
which was founded by him and consecrated by his blood
therefore whoever succeeds peter in this chair

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he according to the institution of christ himself
holds the primacy of peter over the whole church
therefore the disposition of truth remains and blessed peter
persevering in the accepted fortitude of the rock
does not abandon the guidance of the church which he has received
for this reason it has always been necessary because of
mightier preeminence for every church to come to the church of rome
that is those who are the faithful everywhere so that in this sea
from which the laws of venerable communion emanate over all
they as members associated in one head coalesce into one bodily structure
if anyone then says that it is not from the institution of christ the lord
himself or by divine right that the blessed peter has perpetual successors
in the primacy over the universal church or that the roman pontiff is not the

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successor of blessed peter in the same primacy let him be anathema
unquote and you can find that in denzinger 18 24 and 1825.
now if you listen closely and i know this was a lot
but if you listen closely you saw that perpetual succession means that every
legitimate pope every roman pontiff every successor of saint peter
receives from christ the exact same primacy
that saint peter had received in other words this primacy did not
end with saint peter as some heretics had maintained
but is passed on perpetually until the end of time
to all of his legitimate successors that is what perpetual succession means
it does not mean that you will have a true pope at all
times there can't be periods in church history where there is no pope now

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granite the situation we're in today is a little more complicated
and a little more serious than just being without a pope for a few years
and certainly vatican 1 does teach that there must always be legitimate
shepherds in the church until the end of time in the
prologue of pastor eternals the council teaches
quote thus then as he meaning christ sent the apostles whom he had selected
from the world for himself as he himself had been sent by the father so
in his church he wished the pastors and the doctors
to be even to the consummation of the world unquote that's denzinger 18 21
the church is visible of her very essence and this visible church
is animated by an invisible principle of supernatural life
with which god endowed her and both of these elements are essential to the
church and in this manner the church will remain

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until the end of time that is what pope leo the 13th
clearly teaches in his 1896 encyclical satisf number three where he writes that
quote since the church is such by divine will and constitution
such it must uniformly remain to the end of time
if it did not then it would not have been founded as perpetual
and the end said before it would have been limited
to some certain place into some certain period of time
both of which are contrary to the truth the union consequently of visible and
invisible elements because it harmonizes with the natural
order and by god's will belongs to the very essence of the church
must necessarily remain so long as the church itself shall endure unquote
that is the catholic teaching and that is what we must believe
and profess granite you definitely run into some difficulties

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as to exactly how that is playing out in our day when we've had no pope
since 1958 that we know of and state of akana's clergy don't even claim to have
ordinary jurisdiction and i'm not going to try to resolve that
here i only want to point out that we have to distinguish between theological
difficulties and contradictions difficulties can be overcome but contradictions
put an end to everything so the recognize and resist people look at
this perpetual succession business and hastily conclude that since they
have successors to pope pius xii and we don't therefore
we're contradicting the dogma of vatican one
and they're not but that is actually false
it is true that the church must always have a way to produce a pope
if one isn't reigning at least in principle

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that is because she is what's called a perfect society
which means she has been endowed by god with all the means necessary
to attain the supernatural end for which she was founded by christ
that includes the pope as the principle of unity and the guarantor
of the faith so even if there is no pope reigning at all times she must
retain the ability to choose one at least in theory
how the church would produce a pope in our day is another question
there are some theories floating around but certainly in the practical order
that is very difficult to envision right now
but then that's also where faith comes in faith in what god has revealed about
his church and such faith in order to be faith must exclude all desire for
demonstration as the catechism of trent says for it relies

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on the authority of god revealing now what the recognize and resisters
don't seem to grasp at all is the purpose for which god guarantees
the perpetual succession in the primacy let's assume for a minute
that their idea of perpetual succession were correct
and that francis is a true pope can anyone tell me what the point of a
perpetual succession of popes would be if someone like francis can be one
as vatican 1 says in the chapter i quoted earlier
the whole point of perpetual succession in the primacy
is the perpetual salvation and perennial good
of the church so she would endure firm until the end of the ages and so that
the truth would remain in the church forever so
unless francis guarantees that he cannot possess

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that primacy that is given in perpetual succession
and so it simply doesn't matter that francis has succeeded in some way
from pius xii if he doesn't guarantee what vatican one teaches the pope
guarantees and of course the same goes for the other fake popes john xxiii
paul vi john paul the first john paul ii and benedict xvi who needs
perpetual succession if that succession doesn't guarantee what christ instituted
the papacy to guarantee the vacancy of the apostolic sea
is the only thing that can sufficiently explain
the total breakdown of catholicism since the death of pope pius xii
no we can't figure out every detail about the situation
we don't exactly know how it happened or how it will be fixed
but we do know that it is the only explanation

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any other explanation must necessarily deny either the papacy or other dogmas
and that is obviously not an option you know what i think we need some
levity here we need a little bit of humor all this is serious and depressing
enough and we could probably all use a little lightheartedness right now to
help us keep going here and therefore i'm going to present to you now
long time listeners will have heard this before i'm going to present to you now
the first ever said of a contest song against the vatican ii religion it's
called vatican ii what the heck are you and is performed by an australian bloke
named damo yes we've got the necessary permission to play the song on this
podcast so it's all kosher okay and uh after we've played it of course
we'll continue with more trot cast oh and for those of

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you who rudely want to jump ahead now and skip this song
it's just over four minutes in length so here we go [Music]
it started with john 23 when he usurped the papacy
a communistic chubby little chappie the masons celebrate the day roncalli
gave the store away it cheered them up and made them very happy
monteney known as paul the sick an evil man built like a stick
implemented lies in a desolation it must be said the day he died they

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pumped him with formaldehyde his legacy sacramental mutilation of vatican
you are the great apostasy it cannot be denied the synthesis of all
heresies states in disorder and foul depravity departure from the truth
you have made compulsory jp won a short time hat upon the vacant
seat but glad to hold the top position it is said
when he chose to investigate the bankers of the papal state he wound up feeling
somewhat kinda dead all that he can too it's easy to tell
you are not from heaven you are straight from hell satan's bunch of tools
treating us like fools our doctrines are true but your doctrines smell

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an actor and a marxist who received the mark of shiva on his brow
kissed the quran and incensed buddha prayed with jews he really shouldn't
to be a heretic he showed us how all that dick who what the heck are you
a protestant religion which is based on gnosticism
we've got saint paul's the tenth you've got eight saints jp
too we will keep the old and you can have them
research ratzy and you will find he was a v2 mastermind ended up as benedict 16.
he plotted multiproprio to strike the treads another blow
now lives his final days in quarantine a vatican too please go hit the highway
we play by the rules that's why we don't eat mate

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on friday your use of her man new tickle continuity
more modernistic just another fallacy of the current nope is out to kill all
faith and hope he's living out the vatican to dream
encounter solidarity buzzwords are his speciality
he takes his rock star status to extreme all that he can do influenced by
instead of wine and bread using beer and linguine
you've stolen our churches cathedrals and our name our monasteries and convents
which suit we will reply where did you come from if you did not
exist i would not have to sing this song religious liberty and existentialism

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the dignity of man and [Music] the truth never changes [Music]
thank you damo that was vatican 2 what the heck are you and you can
download the song for a minimal fee i think it's less than a dollar
from true restoration or you can go to their website
truerestoration.org and play it online for free
anytime you like the link to that as always
is in our show notes all right now that we've had this little timeout

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we can get back to business on april 20th of this year the so-called archbishop
carlo maria vigano we mentioned earlier released a message denouncing the
vatican's upcoming supposed health conference which is to take place
may 6 through may 8th hosted among others by the so-called pontifical
council for culture among the 114 speakers at the conference i kid you not
are anthony fauci chelsea clinton cindy crawford jane goodall deepak
chopra and other such characters now no doubt these people are all very
concerned about your health so oh you know what
maybe this is a typo and they really meant vatican hell conference instead of
health conference well that would that would make more sense anyway

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so father vigano writes quote the holy see has deliberately renounced
the supernatural mission of the church making itself the servant of the new
world order and masonic globalism in an anti-christic
counter magisterium unquote of course there is no question that the
modernist vatican ii church especially under francis is indeed not fulfilling
the supernatural mission of the catholic church and has in fact established an
anti-christian magisterium but for heaven's sake
that's only possible because there is also an
anti-pope at the helm there is not just a fake church but also a fake pope
how difficult can this be this idea that the catholic church can
abandon her divine mission seems to be gaining in popularity among

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the recognized and resisters of course it's heresy but that doesn't
seem to bother them at least they're not said of a contest right
so back in 2016 christopher ferreira argued against novels ordo apologist
mark shea that the catholic church had abandoned the great commission
never mind that pope leo xiii taught in 1902
that the church quote has preached the gospel and has defended it at the price
of its blood and strong in the divine assistance and
of that immortality which have been promised it
it makes no terms with error but remind remains faithful to the commands which
it has received to carry the doctrine of jesus
christ to the outermost limits of the world and to the
end of time and to protect it in its inviolable

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integrity unquote that's from pope leo's apostolic letter anum ingressi
ferrara of course tried to lawyer his way out of it but
that's not our topic now the link to our post examining his debate with shea is
included in the notes for this episode so you can click
on that if you'd like more information another purveyor of this heretical and
blasphemous idea that the catholic church can abandon her
divinely given mission is eric sammons who just recently became
editor of crisis magazine he's just published a book entitled i kid you not
deadly indifference how the church lost her mission and how we can reclaim it
now this book is not out in hard copy yet but an electronic version for kindle
is already available and so i just purchased that and i am utterly
shocked at the brazen heresy and blasphemy

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in the title but also in the conclusion of the book
where salmons writes that the church the bride of christ
has had her head turned she's forgotten her royal standing
she's cast aside and abdicated and forgotten her mission
yes these are verbatim the terms he uses he stops just short of saying that the
bride has become a harlot but he clearly does make the point that the
catholic church has defected of course if pressed on it
i'm sure he would deny that but that is clearly what he is communicating
and the title alone confirms it right the subtitle how the church
lost her mission now i have to say that i fear that this
notion of the church being able to go astray and
abandon her mission that this is going to become more popular and remain popular
among the semi-trads for a long time to come

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certainly vegano is going to be peddling it for the remainder of his days i'm
sure yet always insisting of course that the hierarchy that is responsible
for the church's defection from the faith is the true
and valid hierarchy and the chief apostate at the head of it all is
naturally the legitimate vicar of christ even though he does not
fulfill the promises that christ gave to the papacy at all
so in his april 20th message vigano speaks of quote the superimposition
over the true church of a sect of heretical and depraved modernists
who are intent on legitimizing adultery sodomy abortion euthanasia idolatry
and any perversion of the intellect and will
the true church is now eclipsed denied and discredited by her very pastors
betrayed even by the one who occupies the highest

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throne unquote and yet at the same time he's insisting that these heretical
prelates of that modernist sect are also the true and legitimate
catholic shepherds with whom you must be in communion
he believes at one and the same time that the church is indefectable
which he affirms in the same letter but also holds
that the holy see has deliberately renounced the supernatural mission of
the church in an antichrist counter magisterium
now he can talk all he wants about some superimposition of a heretical sect over
the roman church but at the end of the day if the holy see has a valid pope
reigning then the acts of the holy see are the acts of the pope
in catholic doctrine there is simply no room for
vegano's admixture of the true church with a false church the church cannot be

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both okay she cannot be the true church and the false church the church of god
and the church of satan or the church of the antichrist
okay just like christ cannot be god and the devil in one just like the
messiah cannot be the christ and the antichrist at the same time
now look i don't know what vegano's motives are whether he's sincere or not
but i do know that what he does is utterly deadly to souls he says so many
important good and true things and he points out many injustices he
leads souls into so much light and truth but then at the decisive crossroads
he points them in the wrong direction and he leaves them ensnared
in the devil's trap remember our lord's words there shall arise

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false christs and false prophets and shall show great signs and wonders
in so much as to deceive if possible even the elect but
despite all that there is no reason to be discouraged
christ has not left us orphans the holy ghost is
always with us and god can infuse the virtues of
faith hope and charity wherever souls are properly disposed even apart
from the sacraments so if you're looking for help
for guidance for consolation make sure you
click on the link in the show notes that is called now what
how to be a real catholic today and also the one entitled perfect contrition
the key to heaven especially for our times clearly every day that passes makes
matters more obvious i suppose that the reason

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why god is allowing it to happen this way is so that everyone who takes
catholicism seriously will have every chance to see it
and will therefore be without excuse all the evidence is there you just have
to be willing to accept it but just like two thousand years ago people today
often do not want to admit what is right in front of their eyes because
once they do they have to act and that might be uncomfortable that
might have undesirable consequences but don't keep pushing it out telling
yourself that you need just one more thing
just one more piece of evidence and then you'll draw the conclusion as our lord
said in luke 16 31 if they hear not moses and the prophets
neither will they believe if one rise again from the dead [Music]

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a busy show has come to an end thanks for sticking around so long
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until next time god bless you [Music] track cast