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a podcast in which we contrast genuine traditional Catholicism with the
frightful reality that is the Vatican II religion currently presided over by the
Argentinian apostate Jorge bergoglio also known as Pope Francis foreign [Music]
with razor sharp analysis and just a touch of humor we keep you not only
informed but also entertained welcome then ladies and gentlemen to
trapcast36 let's go [Music] [Applause] Deja Vu is defined as a feeling of
having already experienced before what is happening now
I get that feeling when I look at the current ecclesiastical landscape because

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it looks to me as though we're in a situation now very similar to how it was
in the late 1950s and early 60s after the death of Pope Pius XII
there are quite a number of parallels to that except that this time of course
everything is taking place at a more advanced level that is one step further
removed from traditional Catholicism let me explain what I mean
in the last 10 years Francis has done so
much damage to what the conservatives in
the Vatican II Church would recognize as Orthodox Doctrine you know strict
opposition to abortion euthanasia and sexual immorality some emphasis on the
supernatural the life of Grace and eternal life as the goal of human
existence and so on that at least was the perceived Orthodoxy before Francis

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came along in 2013. with francis's arrival and the utter
chaos that followed and still endures to the present at first the conservatives
tried to spin the new false Pope as being just as Orthodox as his
predecessors I remember distinctly Michael Voris for example slamming the
secular media for daring to suggest that bregolio's obvious difference in style
was reflective of a difference also in substance
well we all know how that went Pope Francis talks like a pope like the
successor to Saint Peter and so it seems to me now that in a sense Francis is to
his immediate predecessors what John the 23rd and Paul VI were to popes Pius XII
Pius XI and all the popes before them for example just as John the 23rd called
the council taught false Doctrine caused a massive upheaval and triggered a

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revolution That Was Then carried out by Paul VI so too Francis has been calling
synods left and right especially now the
upcoming Synod on synodality he has made
a complete mess of things and has taught
things contrary to the faith and by that I mean things that are contrary even to
the doctrines of his immediate predecessors whether they actually are or aren't
isn't even the point here the point is that that is how people perceive it
and by that I mean to include not just the average conservative Noble sort of
pewsetter but also big names such as Ralph Martin Jeffrey myris Joseph
Seifert Phil Lawler Henry sear I think George Weigel even
to some extent or another they see Francis as deviating from sound Doctrine
and by sound Doctrine I mean what they recognize as such in the magisterium of

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John Paul II and Benedict XVI with bergoglio everything has been up
one level you might say collegiality has become synodality ecumenism has become
human fraternity and religious liberty has become divinely willed religious
diversity and so we have an interesting scenario
here because the same people who vigorously oppose traditionalists for
daring to suggest that John the 23rd and Paul VI and the post-concilia
magisterium deviated from the traditional catholic magisterium of Pope
Pius XII now take a very similar line with regard to Francis vis-a-vis the
prior novusordo magisterium and just as Paul VI all but outlawed the
traditional Latin Mass so Francis has now once again forbidden it not entirely

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but he's put severe restrictions on it and set a process in motion that will
eventually phase it out altogether also just as with Vatican II there is
once again this ominous atmosphere of a new beginning a great reset if you will
and of course bergoglio continually talks about the God of surprises and the
newness of the spirit and denounces clinging to the past and all that
similar to how John the 23rd spoke of a new Pentecost and denounced the prophets
of Doom who as it turns out were actually right
the situation now is eerily similar to that of the 1960s with the difference
that some of the Novelties of the 60s are today's Orthodoxy which the Uber
modernists like Francis are trying to go beyond in order to bring about an Ever
greater apostasy and just as we had strict Defenders of

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the new orientation in the 1960s so also
today we have the various apologists for bergoglio and his surpriseiology
people such as Mike Lewis Austin Ivory Tim Staples Michael Lofton and Jimmy
Aiken and just as we had our Cardinal otavianis and Archbishop fevs back in
the 1960s and after so now we have the former U.S nuncio Archbishop vegano
Bishop Strickland of Texas and Bishop Schneider of Kazakhstan
and we even have the first post Benedict
state of a contest so to speak those who believe the chair of Saint Peter has
been vacant since either Benedict's death in 2022 or his resignation in 2013.
and heck for almost 10 years we even had
a Siri thesis of sorts like those people
who believe that Cardinal Joseph Siri of

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Genoa was the secret Pope after Pius XII a good number of people in the noble
sort of church think that Benedict XVI secretly remained the true Pope until
his death on December 31st 2022 among those we can count Patrick coffin Alexis
bonolo and Anne Barnhart so what does all of this mean to be honest I don't know
but I do know it is a creepy kind of deja vu
ladies and gentlemen as the apostasy and the doctrinal and moral chaos in the
Vatican reach of fever pitch at ever greater speed the reactions of the
recognize and resist pundits are becoming more and more absurd
one of the latest examples as with this recording is a piece put out by Robert
Morrison at the remnant on July 18th entitled Pius XII sumani generis and the

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holy ghost's protection of what John the 23rd rejected
now first of all the idea that a true Pope which is of course what Morrison
believes about in John the 23rd the idea that a true Pope could reject the
magisterial teaching of his predecessor is already absurd Humane generis was
Pope Pius XII 1950 encyclical against neo-modernism by the way
it is an absurd idea but still that position is to be expected from The
Remnant so that's not really news but here's The Clincher
Morrison tries to explain how the Holy Ghost protected the church when John the
23rd rejected Pope Pius xii's encyclical listen to this utterly asinine
commentary quote for 60 years so many Catholics have
experienced tremendous anxiety over the thought that God's promise to protect

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the church had become void with Vatican II however if we approach this deep
mystery in a rational manner trying to make the most sense out of the evidence
signs God has permitted in his loving Providence we can see that the Holy Ghost
protection of the church was exercised by making it perfectly clear that John
the 23 rejected that protection for his counsel
with the benefit of hindsight we can recognize that from the first day of the
council there were already clear signs that John the 23 fundamentally rejected
Pius XII sumani generis and the indispensable protections of the
faith contained therein it is as though God compelled John the
23rd to leave us this unmistakable confirmation that he was rejecting the
protections of the Holy Ghost and I'm skipping ahead now although John

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XXII obstructed the protections of the Holy Ghost with respect to his counsel
the Holy Ghost never ceased protecting the church in large part that protection
consisted of Permitting it to be abundantly clear that the council did
not benefit from the protections of the Holy Ghost
as such no Catholic can follow any Innovations of the council that deviate
from what the church has always taught even more significantly the holy ghost's
protection of the church has extended to
allowing it to be painfully obvious that the council's errors have caused
disastrous fruits this fact both adds a profound reason to
avoid the errors denounced by Pius XII and his predecessors and allows the true
doctrine of the church to shine forth more brilliantly unquote folks I wish it

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were satire in two paragraphs Robert Morrison just
claimed that the Holy Ghost protects the Catholic church not by preventing an
ecumenical council from teaching doctrinal error but by allowing it to do
so in an obvious way so that everyone can see the council isn't protected by
the Holy Spirit you can't make the stuff up this is what the author calls
approaching this deep mystery in a rational manner this is just appalling
do these people ever think about what they write or do they just throw stuff
out there as long as it supports their position
I mean come on by that logic I guess the Mormons are protected by the Holy Ghost
the Muslims the methodists even the so-called old Catholics after Vatican
won right they could say that papal infallibility is such obvious nonsense

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that everyone can tell that the Holy Ghost was obviously not protecting the
first Vatican Council in 1870. this is Comedy Hour
for the remnant to publish something so absurd shows that they're completely out
of ideas they're recognize and resist Enterprise is intellectually bankrupt
they're out of answers out of excuses out of spin they're done
they're scraping the bottom of the barrel and it's even the wrong Barrel
Francis has blown the lid off the false traditionalism of recognize and resist
and even though the resistors don't realize it now or don't appreciate it is
actually for their own good but then even as with the scribes and
Pharisees back in the day people still have to freely Ascent to the reality in

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front of them it is not only a matter of the intellect but also of the will
the editor of the remnant by the way is Michael Matt and I have a question for
him that he himself recently asked of novel's ordo apologists
I want to throw his own words back at him What's it gonna take to convince you
guys yes Mr Matt what will it take that's what I want to know too none are
so blind as those who refuse to see that sound bite by the way was taken
from the June 25th 2023 video Church in Flames traditional Catholics Predator
priests and the Latin Mass published by The Remnant on YouTube
putting the link in the show notes you can find the show notes at
trapcast.org simply scroll down to episode 36.
anyway let's go back to Morrison's article his thesis about the Holy Ghost

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protecting the church not by preventing evil from being taught by making it
obvious that evil is being taught he seems to contradict that later on in his
article when he tries to explain why so many people and even today didn't seem
to notice what was supposedly so obvious
he quotes Bishop athanasius Schneider on this and then comments quote if great
Shepherds of the church such as Bishop Schneider come to this realization only
after considerable prayer and reflection it is no wonder that so many faithful
Catholics still labor under the mistaken
belief that the Holy Ghost protected the council from error unquote so which is
it did the Holy Ghost protect the church by making the council's errors obvious
never mind that you'll never find such a ridiculous idea in any pre-vatican II

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Catholic theology book or are even great Shepherds of the church and so many
faithful Catholics incapable of seeing it for so long
because if a large number of people cannot see the obvious for decades
then how is the church being protected you can't have it both ways you can't
say the Holy Spirit made it obvious but then also maintain that even many
faithful prayerful Catholics couldn't figure it out and still cannot
not to mention the not so prior full ones you know I find it really infuriating
that the remnant puts out such junk under the label of traditional Catholicism
I find it infuriating especially because they reach so many people with us
how in the world did it ever happen that
this is considered the Orthodox antidote to the Vatican II religion it's really

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tragic because this isn't a game this isn't a joke
there are so many good will Pious people who just want to be real Catholics and
raise their families and please God and this is the stuff that they get
inundated with under the label of Catholic tradition
so Morrison refers to athanasius Schneider as one of the great Shepherds
of the church well of course he says that because he
agrees with Schneider he likes what Schneider says and does so it's a rather
subjective judgment by the same token though others in his church May differ
in their subjective judgments they might and many do say that Cardinal
Joseph Tobin or Bishop Robert McElroy are great Shepherds because they agree
with them the difference would be however that Tobin and McElroy are actually

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shepherds in the noble sorto church and by that I mean they are actual dioces
and Bishops local ordinaries heads of dioceses unlike Schneider
and here I'm totally sidestepping the issue of whether the ordinations are
valid that's irrelevant to the point I'm making
Schneider is only an auxiliary bishop and that means he doesn't even have his
own flock so in that sense he is not really a
Shepherd at all his job is only to help the real Shepherd of his diocese and
various Episcopal functions and that Shepherd is Archbishop Thomas
petta in the Archdiocese of Maria Santisima in Kazakhstan he is the real
Noble sort of Shepherd there and only there
I just want to point that out because these recognize and resist people have
created a fantasy world for themselves a real bubble in which they live and in

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that bubble Schneider is a great Shepherd because he presumes to correct
Francis in public and the semi-trads like that
but outside of that bubble in actual Noble's Ordo land and what everybody
else believes is the Catholic church and
how it's supposed to be in in that world Schneider is not important at all
he's just an auxiliary in the Diocese of
only 54 000 registered as Catholics with no external jurisdiction over anyone
and I'm not trying to put them down I'm just relating the objective facts
contrary to Morrison's wishful thinking and I think that's important people need
to know when they read these recognize and resist articles how much of it is
just spin all right we'll come back to the remnant
later on but now let's take a look at some recent news from novo's Ordo land

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the Archdiocese of Munich in Germany is advertising an ecumenical Requiem
service for a glacier yes a glacier that's the ice that sits
on top of a mountain the notice on the archdiocesan website
announced it as follows and by the time you're listening to this it's already
taken place quote in order to draw attention to the
consequences of rapidly advancing climate change and the importance of
preserving creation the Catholic and Protestant churches in wordenfelser land
are organizing an ecumenical Requiem for the Zuck Spitz Glacier in the chapel of
the visitation of the Virgin Mary zaksh spits plot on Tuesday
25th of July at 12 noon unquote what do you say to that
afterwards the dwindling Glacier will be blessed in a church ritual

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well that's nice look since their idea of church is not
for the Salvation of souls they've got to have some kind of substitute right
otherwise these pseudo-clerics will just be out of a job
you know the funny thing is that typically all these people believe in
evolution right in macro Evolution they believe that basically every living
creature that exists evolved out of a single organism a primordial soup of
bacteria or or something or maybe even inanimate matter
and yet these same people are worried about disappearing species and whatnot
well if everything can simply evolve from practically nothing
then what's the problem oh and by the way whatever happened to
survival of the fittest maybe the glacier just didn't make the cut

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now look I'm not saying we shouldn't take care of the environment that we
shouldn't try to preserve biodiversity it is God's creation and some of it can
be irretrievably lost I'm just pointing out the irony here if
you believe in evolution which is an absurd position then this stuff
shouldn't matter to you then everything comes from nothing you
just have to give it enough time all right let's go to the Vatican for some news
no doubt everyone has heard by now that Francis has appointed Victor Manuel
Fernandez we call him Smoochy because in 1995 he published that disgusting book
Heal Me with Your Mouth the art of kissing
that he has been appointed now head of what used to be the holy office
the congregation for the doctrine of the faith now it's actually called the
dicastery for the doctrine of the faith but it really should be called the

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dicastery for the destruction of the faith because that's all it's for anymore
now Allah has already been written about Fernandez and how good of a fit he is
for that dicastery so I don't want to spend much time on him here
by the way even the secular press has started reporting that given his
background maybe he's not the most suitable candidate for that position of
You Know Chief guardian of Orthodoxy I'm going to link a few posts in the
show notes for this episode and leave it at that but I do want to mention that
Fernandez has responded to his critics about that book and has said that hey
don't make such a big deal about it that was 30 years ago it was not meant as a
great work of theology it was just meant as a catechesis for teenagers

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yeah he said that apparently he thought that that would help the situation
it didn't it just showed how tone deaf the man is
the book by the way has one chapter that contains a collection of short poems
about kissing I won't quote this now but
in one of the poems written by Fernandez himself he asks to bleed to death from
the kiss of a she-wolf enough said on May 19th of this year Vatican news
reported man arrested after forcing entry into Vatican City a 40 year old
man drives a car at high speed into Vatican city-state and is arrested after
forcing two checkpoints of the Swiss guard and the Vatican John darmory
yeah that was a quote and you can read the full story for yourself the links in

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the show notes but what I find so interesting about the story is what we
see there we see that Vatican City a has closed borders B requires people who
want to enter to use the official point of entry
C does not allow just anyone to enter but requires a legitimate permit D
defends its territorial Integrity with armed guards who are willing to fire
shots if necessary and E arrests those who violate its borders
meanwhile Francis preaches open borders and generous Hospitality to everyone
else another report from Vatican news is dated July 14 2023 the headline is Holy
See firmly condemns desecration of religious symbols

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in the article it says quote the Holy See has strongly condemned the
desecration destruction or disrespect for religious objects symbols and places
of worship reiterating that these acts are an abuse of the precious gift of
freedom of expression which feed hatred intolerance and create greater
polarization in society unquote the Vatican news article says further
quote Monsignor David Putzer said that to willfully insult religious beliefs
Traditions or sacred objects constitutes an attack on the human dignity of the
believer unquote you know I find that interesting because
when Paul VI did it they called it liturgical renewal
right I mean when the liturgical Revolution got underway in the late

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1960s and the new Mass was imposed it led to Untold sacrilegious desecrations
of altars communion rails ripped out churches gutted statuary thrown away and
so on but that's how it's been for decades now
the Unholy see is always concerned about desecration when it comes to the
religious symbols and paraphernalia of other religions not so much about
Catholic things now notice that the Vatican does not
condemn the desecration destruction or disrespect of what is truly sacred
because it concerns the true God or the True Religion but instead condemns what
is merely considered sacred in any and all religions thereby once again
treating all religions as equal putting the True Religion revealed by Jesus
Christ on the same level as man-made diabolical sects

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concerning article 9 of the Creed I believe in the Holy Catholic Church the
communion of saints the catechism of the Council of Trent points out quote
just as this one Church cannot err in faith or moral since it is Guided by the
Holy Ghost so on the contrary all other societies arrogating to themselves the
name of Church Must necessarily because Guided by the spirit of the devil be
sunk in the most pernicious errors both doctrinal and moral unquote
yeah that doesn't sound exactly like Vatican II does it
for those who may not be aware or have perhaps forgotten the Vatican II decree
on ecumenism una tatata's red integration States the following in number three
quote it follows that the separated churches and communities as such though

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we believe them to be deficient in some respects
have been by no means deprived of significance and importance in the
mystery of salvation for the spirit of Christ has not refrained from using them
as means of Salvation which derive their
efficacy from the very fullness of Grace and Truth and trusted to the church
unquote that is insane but anyway going back to the Vatican
condemnation of desecrating any and all religious objects the immediate context
in which that came was an incident where someone in Sweden burned a Quran the
Muslim holy book right next to a mosque now look depending on the context in
which it is done burning a bad book any bad book maybe prudent or imprudent it

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can lead to misunderstanding it can needlessly provoke anger hatred and
violence it can lead to the injury or deaths even of third parties
burning a copy of the Quran in front of a mosque is probably not going to help
in the conversion of Muslims to the True Religion Roman Catholicism if anything
it will probably make such conversion a lot more difficult and needlessly so
at the same time the fundamental fact remains that it is in itself and
objectively a good and Noble thing to destroy Blasphemous books
other bad literature dangerous literature right in decent magazines and
and so forth now of course in the Vatican II religion
they have long stopped distinguishing the True Religion from false religions
and they have totally abandoned the idea that only truth has rights and error
doesn't that's that evil triumphalism they always decry

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instead they now base everything on the alleged Dignity of the human person to
such an extent that in the event of a conflict even the truth and the rights
of God must yield to the Dignity of man and here we see a perfect example of
that never mind that God is blasphemed in the Muslim Quran and the Jewish talmud
never mind that Hindus worship creatures and Jehovah's Witnesses deny the
Divinity of our Lord Jesus Christ none of that according to the post-catholic
Vatican can make it lawful to destroy or denigrate even in the proper context
their Blasphemous texts their false Idols their evil doctrines symbols and
rights because the people who unfortunately adhere to these diabolical religions
have dignity and that dignity is apparently greater than God's dignity

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God's right not to be offended not to be blasphemed not to be lied about not to
be denied that is insane and here we see a fundamental Paradigm
Shift between the preconcilier and the post-conciliary church and these two
paradigms are inherently incompatible in real Catholicism false religions can
be tolerated and even the public exercise of false religions depending on
circumstances may have to be tolerated and not outlawed or acted against but
never ever can there be a right to practice them or a right not to be
prevented from practicing them in public
so the novusordo Vatican considers it an attack on the human dignity of the
believer to willfully insult religious beliefs Traditions or sacred objects

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again without distinguishing the True Religion from false religions it's all
the same according to them because people have rights even when they're in
error and if the error offends god well it's just too bad for the Holy Trinity
well according to that standard the Vatican II Church would have condemned
not only Saint Boniface Winfred who destroyed idols and Heathen temples and
cut down the so-called sacred Oak the Pagan Germans were worshiping in the 8th
century but also Moses who destroyed the golden
calf the Israelites had begun worshiping in Exodus 32 20 it says and laying hold
of the calf which they had made he burnt it and beat it to powder
as long as the idolatrous Israelites were human and they were then according

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to the false teaching of today's Vatican they possessed that dignity which Moses
had an obligation to respect in which Moses had no right to offend against by
destroying the idol in fact if this false new novosorto
doctrine were correct then even our blessed Lord Jesus Christ would be to
blame because he certainly did willfully
insult some of the religious beliefs and traditions of the scribes and Pharisees
I'm not going to quote it all here I'll just refer you to Matthew 15 Matthew 23
Mark 7 and John 8. folks you can't have it both ways if the
new religion of Vatican II is true then the entire church before Vatican II
The Gospel and the New Testament itself even the Old Testament would be false
then no one would ever have been allowed

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to destroy a statue of Malik Baal or any other demonic Idol because of the
Dignity of those devil worshipers folks if this is not the great apostasy
I don't know what there will be left to apostatize from
trapcast all right I've got yet another new story from the post-catholic Vatican
and this one you may have already heard about on May 19th 2023 lifesite
published an article entitled Vatican mariologist suggests apparitions about
God's punishment are false despite past approval you can't make the stuff up
so this Franciscan Friar a certain father Stefano check-in if I'm
pronouncing that correctly who is the president of the pontifical

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international Marian Academy has made the following brilliant comment
about Discerning true Marian apparitions
from false ones quote does a mother want to punish her children by sending them
illnesses death no way so the apparitions that speak of
punishments from God are absolutely false unquote
but of course to be true all apparitions obviously have to jive with Vatican II
with the joy and hope the gaudium at space of the new religion and there is
no room for punishment there punish people why would God do that right
this poor ninevites they didn't know about Vatican II those idiots actually
did Penance for 40 days because Jonas the prophet had announced to them that

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God was going to destroy their City didn't they know he was just bluffing
God would never have done that they could have just sat back and waited
for some Divine caresses and accompaniment instead because hey would
a loving God ever punish someone I mean what father punishes his kids
right that doesn't ever happen ladies and gentlemen
we see here once more the poison of naturalism
see this Franciscan fellow is so steeped in the temporal and the mundane
that he sees happiness as something that must come from and therefore be sought
in this natural temporal world suffering in this world for Eternal
happiness in the next that's not even on this radar he can't fathom it because
he's a naturalist just like Francis that by the way is why Francis rejects

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not only the death penalty but also life imprisonment as appropriate forms of
punishment because both mean the definitive end of happiness in this world
now what does a man like that a novel's Ordo priest For Heaven's Sake
what does a man like that believe about sacred scripture the Bible is full of
God's physical punishments beginning with the third chapter of the very first
book and then there's also Cain and Abel Noah and the flood and on and on but of
course you know these people don't believe in any of that that's obvious
what could such a man as this Franciscan presbyter who thinks God would never
punish anyone what could he possibly believe about purgatory about hell

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about picking up one's cross to follow Christ
these people are apostates there is no Catholicism left in the Vatican it's all
just an empty shell and remember that as Pope Benedict the
15th wrote in his encyclical the faith can only be accepted in its
entirety quote such is the nature of Catholicism that it does not admit of
more or less but must be held as a whole or as a whole rejected unquote it's
paragraph number 24. so if even just one Dogma is rejected
the entire faith is thereby rejected because the faith exists only as a whole
Christ gave to his Apostles to his church one deposit of faith it is not

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made up of individual parts or elements okay we can only accept that deposit if
we accept all of it we cannot pick and choose if someone chooses only certain
truths in that deposit and rejects others then he does not accept the
deposit at all and makes himself the authority of what is true and false
rather than submitting to the authority of Christ and of his church
and you know what ladies and gentlemen think it's time for a break stay tuned
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welcome back this is episode 36 of your favorite podcast
and now we come to one of my favorite segments you've probably missed it already

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[Music] from the Jorge's mouth [Music] that's right from the Jorge's mouth
precious bits and pieces of the infinite wisdom that falls from the Auguste lips
of Jorge bergoglio stage name poop Francis
and as always he didn't disappoint you may know that world youth day is just
around the corner and depending on when you're listening to this show it may
have already taken place it's scheduled for August 1st through the 6th and of
course France has released a video message
for all those who will be attending and as always it's just full of the profound
spiritual insights we've come to know and love
from the Argentinian Jesuit so here we go Vatican news released the following

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unofficial translation of francis's words
quote dear young people who are leaving for Lisbon for World youth day I wish
you a good journey I hope you arrive at the encounter filled with joy
take this path and make a journey life is about making a journey young people
have the vocation to make a journey striver had courageously always looking
toward your destination do so with the mysticism of the journey always walking
with others and never alone may God bless you and thank you for your efforts
and your hard work have a good day unquote
I'm so touched this is just so beautiful have more meaningful words ever been

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spoken who will not be edified by such Supernatural insights
the mysticism of the journey moving forward with our eyes fixed on the goal
it's too bad he doesn't say what the goal was but knowing him he'd probably
say the goal is the journey anyway Francis has a lot planned still
for the remainder of the year after World youth day he'll travel to Mongolia
now that country is not that small size-wise but they have so few Catholics
there that they do not even have a diocese if I counted correctly they only have
nine churches or chapels in the whole country plus a cathedral for the apostolic
prefect which is a missionary jurisdiction

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the total number of people registered as Catholic in the nation of Mongolia is
one thousand three hundred and just so you have something to
compare that to the tiny island nation of Tonga in the Pacific Ocean has about
15 000 okay that's Tonga so Mongolia doesn't even have 10 percent
of the number of Catholics that Tonga has
and yet Francis will fly there with his Entourage and blow I don't know how many
thousands of pounds of carbon dioxide into the air all the while lecturing
everyone else of course to fight climate change
that's exactly my kind of humor all right what else is Francis going to be
doing this year well he will have a consistory to create more fake Cardinals on

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September 30th and then of course there will finally be The Grand Event the
world has been waiting for with baited breath
the Synod that's right the Senate on synodality which will be held in October
in the Vatican and then again in October of next year to finish it
you know all this freak outery over the Senate I find it odd because people who
know better or should know better are acting as if the Senate will be some
kind of unique event which will definitively determine if Francis is a
true Pope or not or if novos Ordo Doctrine will be changed or not
well actually the Senate will do neither first because Francis has already done
so many things that are impossible for a

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true Pope to do that whatever he does at the Senate
won't be the deciding factor for anything
and secondly because the Senate does not determine Doctrine the Senate is not
magisterial it will of course issue a final document
but that document has no magisterial Authority on its own and will only
advise Francis as to what he should do I guess they might say it's what the
spirit is saying to Francis but at the end of the day the one to change
Doctrine will be Francis and he's done it before entirely without a senate even
that was the change on the death penalty back in 2018. he just updated the
catechism and the footnote for that update simply referenced a speech he had
given that prior year Francis says it and boom Doctrine changes that's how
that works now for that one for the death penalty I

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guess he knew he could get away with it because most people in the novel sorto
disagree with the death penalty anyway even some traditionalists at least
outside of the United States so that was not that big of a deal for
him to change I think however for something like access to the sacraments
for unrepentant adulterers regolio needed a kind of mandate so to speak
from the Senate and that's why he didn't
touch that topic until after the senates on the family back in 2014 and 15.
so if indeed he wants to go ahead and provide some kind of official
magisterial opening to same-sex unions or blessings or whatever and I think he
does want that he'll be looking for a hefty mandate from the Senate because
it's going to get a lot of opposition in this church especially from people in
Africa I think and so I suspect he will do what he did with the sentence on the

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family and that is try to get as much Progressive junk into the final document
as possible while looking to see how much conservative pushback there is
in other words he'll just see what he can get away with
if there isn't much pushback or just from very limited quarters then he'll
probably give a closing address at the senate in which he praises the assembly
as the voice of the people of God and therefore the voice of the spirit
and you know signs of the times and that stuff and then he'll incorporate the
Senate's recommendations in his post-synital exhortation and thereby
make them magisterial and all I can say is for that final
document watch the footnotes if on the other hand there is a lot of
opposition and he doesn't think he can incredibly get what he wants
then he'll do what he did in 2015 and say yet the Senate closing address that

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the church can't be reduced to political categories like Progressive and
conservative and that really both sides are crazy and he the successor of Peter
has now come to step in and put an end to these insufferable skirmishes between
progressives who want the church to be a flower without roots
and the conservatives who want the church to be perpetually fixed on the
roots thereby stifling growth and suffocating the spirit
that's what I think is going to happen one of these two Alternatives depending
on how things go for him now the Senate is scheduled to end as I
said in late 2024. which means the magisterial people
document wouldn't be released until 2025 and frankly I don't think Francis is
going to make it to 25. he'd be 88 then and I just don't see that happening

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anyway time will tell okay having covered all that let's go back to the
remnant on July 8 2023 Michael Matt published a 40-minute video entitled
inside the Vatican Pope Francis Bill Clinton and Alex Soros in that video
Matt talks about some of francis's latest chaos and then he says stuff like
this they're making a chaotic mess of the church in her human element as we
always say and it's on purpose church and her Divine element friends is fine
not worried about it the church in the human element has been totally
infiltrated ah yes the human element is back and you know with regard to
francis's personal moral failings such as giving a thumbs up to a Blasphemous
artist or meeting with Wicked people yeah that would pertain to his personal
sinfulness and in that sense to the human element of the church but the

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Divine element concerns the church's nature Doctrine sacraments laws Saints
and Michael Matt is not worried about that really no that's not how it is he
simply says that that's all part of the human element as well and as he said in
a YouTube video years ago the Divine element was God the angels and the
Saints something to that effect fantastic Theology and so traditional
next matte contrasts francis's new made-up doctrines with the teaching of
the first Vatican council's dogmatic Constitution pastor eternus
chapter 4 where it says quote for the Holy Spirit was promised to the
successors of Peter not so that they might by his Revelation make known some
new doctrine but that by his assistance they might religiously guard and

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Faithfully expound the Revelation or the positive Faith transmitted by the
apostles unquote and then Matt makes one of the most
crucial mistakes of the recognize and resist crowd he interprets these words
from the first Vatican Council in a normative sense rather than in a
descriptive sense what do I mean by that if taken in a normative sense it would
mean that the council's teaching merely establishes a norm for the pope to
follow as in the pope is supposed to teach sound Doctrine and not make up his
own teachings but Vatican 1 is not simply establishing
a norm here because that wouldn't make any sense it would be totally
insufficient any Pastor in the church is not supposed to teach a false gospel

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indeed any person anywhere at any time what makes the papacy so different so
unique from any other institution in the world is that it is Guided by the Holy
Ghost and this Holy Ghost will assist the Pope in such a way that he will not
indeed cannot ever teach his own doctrines rather than the true gospel
and so that passage from Vatican 1 only makes sense if taken in a descriptive
way the council describes in what Manner the Holy Ghost assists the papacy it
does not simply give the pope a rule to follow in other words the council does
not say what the pope ought to do it says what the pope does
next Michael Matt announces the Bellarmine moment ladies and gentlemen

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our Bellarmine moment is here we don't come over this before but it's
time to get serious remember St Robert Bellarmine doctor of
the church said therefore just as it would be lawful to resist a pontiff
invading a body so is it lawful to resist him invading souls or disturbing
a state and much more if he should Endeavor to destroy the church I say it
is lawful to resist him by not doing what he commands and by blocking him
lest he should carry out his will end quote but the point is
we have doctors of the church who are talking about popes who can go so far
off the rails that they actually began to try to
attempt to destroy the church Bellarmine doesn't say they cease to be posed
matter of fact he says we can't even judge them if they do that but we must
resist them if they're trying to destroy the church you know some people can

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spend decades repeating their same old talking points without ever learning
anything that argument Matt just made using the resistance quote of Saint Robert
Bellarmine was refuted as far back as 2004 by Father Anthony chicada that was
almost 20 years ago let me quote from that article and of
course it's linked in the show notes for troutcast 36 at troutcast.org
quote anyone who actually consults the original sources and who understands a
few fundamental distinctions in canon law comes up with a completely different
set of conclusions about what the famous resistance passage really means to it
one Bellarmine is talking about a morally evil pope who gives morally evil
commands not one who like the post-vatican two popes teaches doctrinal

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error or imposes evil laws two the context of the statement is a
debate over the errors of galicanism not the case of a heretical pope
three Bellarmine is justifying resistance by Kings and prelates not by
individual Catholics four Bellarmine teaches in the next
chapter of his work chapter 30 that a heretical pope automatically loses his
authority unquote and by the way there is another
Bellarmine quote that Michael Matt never cites and it's this one
quote the pope is the teacher and Shepherd of the whole church thus the
whole church is so bound to hear and follow him that if he would air the
whole church would air now our adversaries respond that the

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church ought to hear him so long as he teaches correctly for God must be heard
more than men on the other hand who will judge whether the pope has taught
rightly or not for it is not for the Sheep to judge
whether the shepherd wanders off not even and especially in those matters
which are truly doubtful nor do Christian sheep have any greater
judge or teacher to whom they might have recourse as we showed above from the
whole church one can appeal to the pope yet from him no one is able to appeal
therefore necessarily the whole church WIll air if the Roman pontiff would air
unquote that's from the book on the Roman
pontiff by Saint Robert Bellarmine book 4 chapter 3 and I used the Ryan Grand
translation and that is also linked in the show notes
so yeah I'd say it really is Our bellerman Moment by the time the

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official magisterium of an apparent Pope is a sewer of heresy and blasphemy
that is your Divine clue that the man in
white who's spouting this garbage is not in fact the Roman pontiff if you try by
hook or by crook to nevertheless make him be the Roman pontiff you are
necessarily utterly destroying the Catholic teaching on the papacy in the
process whether you mean to or not obviously if the papacy has any meaning
then you cannot simply take an apostate teacher like Jorge bergoglio and say
he's the Roman pontiff with no impact to the correct understanding of the papacy
but somehow Matt thinks that's above his pay grade so no I'm not a state of a
contest and neither was Bellarmine I am perfectly content to let history
and a future Pope judge Francis and declare whether or not you know he

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retained his office during this period that's for somebody else it's above my
pay grade so that's above his pay grade that which follows necessarily from
Catholic Doctrine applied to the observable facts of our day that's above
his pay grade but constantly correcting criticizing rejecting the papal
magisterium and telling others to do the same even to the point of saying the
pope is the head of a false church that is not above his pay grade I find that
very interesting this idea that we have to wait for a
future Pope to judge Francis before we can know if he was a pope or not is
neither true nor helpful because a Catholic would have to know
now whether following Francis is safe and necessary for salvation or not

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and contrary to what Matt thinks that does hinge on whether he's the Pope I
understand what I'm talking about here well I'm sorry but it's not apparent
you don't care whether Francis is the pope or not because you do not submit to
him anyway but submission to the Roman pontiff is
necessary to be a Catholic it is necessary for salvation these things matter
you can't just yell them away and this resistance to the Pope is between me and
God not you not anybody in this audience who's going to lecture me about how you
can't do that that's not right you must declare that he's not the pope if you're
going to resist him no no that's not it it's my conscience that matters excuse
me sir but you've been spreading your position for decades and this very video

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at the time this trapcast is being recorded has 45 000 views on YouTube
you're impacting a lot of people if you want this to be just between you
and your conscience and God then For Heaven's Sake stop publishing
the remainder of the Michael Matt video is so theologically atrocious that I've
just decided to let it go from here on except for this one ironic sound bite
don't let Francis please don't let friends think of all the great popes in
history all the Beloved Saints Pius the 10th Pius V lapanto the hero popes
we're not talking about a warring against the papacy we're not talking
about throwing the popes away or discarding the Theology of the papacy
because of a guy like Francis he's just one bad Pope that went off the rails
where do you start where do you start so
he wants you to think of all the sainted popes well right away my question will

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be does that include John the 23rd Paul VI and John Paul II because those were
canonized as Saints by Francis see it with recognize and resist you
cannot escape the problem Michael Matt can yell all he wants changing the
Theology of the papacy is precisely what he's doing and he's doing it for the
sake of having Francis be a true Pope what a bad bargain
oh and then Francis is just one Pope who went off the rails
as far as I recall the remnants resistance didn't start with Francis in 2013.
The Remnant was founded in 1967 precisely because they could not in
conscience go along with the new orientation of Vatican II which is why
they split from The Wanderer then long before Francis there was the

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resistance of the remnant against Vatican II against Paul VI John Paul II
and even against Benedict XVI to an extent so I don't know if Michael Matt knows
what he's arguing anymore oh well another big recognize and resist
icon as of late has been Dr Peter quijneski and we're going to need to
give him some attention because he influences a lot of people
and is cranking out really dangerous ideas specifically on the papacy
of course kwajniewski believes burgoglio Francis is the pope of the Catholic
Church but he keeps publishing article after article advising people on how to
properly understand Catholicism even against the magisterium of Francis as if
he were some kind of theological Authority in his church
when he has no mandate from the lawful ecclesiastical authority to be doing that

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and by that I mean that he does not have a mandate from anyone he himself claims
is the lawful Church Authority he's doing it completely on his own and
some of it is totally at odds with traditional Catholicism
that's significant because listen to what Pope Pius XII said in his address
to the Cardinals gathered for the canonization of Saint Pius X on May 31st
1954. quote the Bishops and first of all the Supreme teacher and Vicar of Christ
on Earth May associate others with themselves in their work of teacher and
use their advice they delegate to them the faculty to teach either by special
Grant or by conferring an office to which the faculty is attached those who
are so-called teach not in their own name nor by reason of their theological

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knowledge but by reason of the Mandate which they have received from the lawful
teaching Authority their faculty always remains subject to
that Authority nor is it ever exercised in its own right or independently
unquote in short exit Peter kwajniewski you cannot say Francis is the pope and
then teach theology without his permission via the Diocesan Bishop much
less teach against him as kwajneski is doing
as I keep saying accepting Francis as Pope has consequences
anyway on novus ordo watch and in trapcast we've critique kwajneski a lot
in the past so I'm not interested in repeating all that here but I did want
to make you aware of an article the professor published at 1 Peter 5 on June

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21st 2023 it's entitled a Wanderer asks questions about church membership
The Wanderer in question is a former novus ordo turned Coptic Orthodox he's
having some doubts and he's asking Dr kwajneski to give him some reasons for
why he should return to Catholicism by which he means ultimately recognize
and resist traditionalism now questionevsky has done this sort of
thing before in the show notes I'm going to link an article from 2021 entitled
why still be a Catholic a critique of Peter kwashniewski's answer to a
despondent novel's ordo seminarian that was an utter train wreck okay on
kwazniewski's part what he said to that seminarian
I'm also going to link troutcast express number 133 which is a complement to the

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noble sort of watch article but let's now have a look at what
kwajniewski says to that Wanderer first the professor says that there are
two types of Catholicism in the Catholic church that of tradition and that of
modernity and that they are very often found mixed together in the same church
this is a quote now in the same church in the same diocese the same Parish the
same priest or bishop or Pope unquote and so he says that the task of the
Catholic now is to somehow disentangle that mess and only stick to the
Catholicism of tradition ski says quote we must exercise
discretion or discernment as we walk to ensure that we are keeping to the right
path unquote of course at that point you'd have to
ask how the Catholic Church what he thinks is the Catholic Church

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how that is any different from say the Anglican church or some conservative
Protestant denomination for they too have certain beliefs that
are true and others that are false and if I'm not mistaken
they believe that each believer has to figure out which is which based if not
on Tradition at least on the Bible how does that differ in essence from
what quagneski is proposing beats me in any case kwajneski then tries to find
a way to get around a pope teaching heresy or other error since he refuses
to consider that Francis is not the pope couldn't have that
and brings up all kinds of superficial arguments such as oh well the pope
doesn't Define what Catholicism is in the past you didn't get your Doctrine
from the pope it was already there and you only looked to the pope to settle
doctrinal disputes and blah blah Instinct of Faith inner consistency

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authentic traditional sources and whatnot the point is that none of these things
can be used against the magisterium of the Pope
and the idea that there could be a contradiction between them such that you
must reject the teaching of the Pope in order to be faithful to the deposit of
Faith that's impossible that's injurious to the faith itself
that is why that is one reason why you must conclude that Francis is not the
Pope see this matters France's status as true Pope or false Pope matters
it's not just a question of do we have the authority to make a declaration it
has nothing to do with making an authoritative declaration
anyway kwashniewski then says this quote our faith is not based on priests

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Bishops and popes but on the Eternal and inerrant word of God the witness of
tradition and the authoritative teaching
already in place unquote that is such an outrageous protestant-like argument
and it's not even very bright by the authoritative teaching already in place
well what makes it authoritative the fact that it comes from the papal
magisterium or the fact that it's already in place if the former then he's
conceding that the papal magisterium is authoritative of itself
if the latter what is being already in place have to do with anything
how does that make it authoritative or true you guys ever get tired of these
stupid arguments people Authority is the same throughout
past present or future makes no difference it's the same Authority
behind it and that is ultimately the authority of Christ

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in his encyclical Humane generis which we mentioned earlier paragraph 18 Pope
Pius XII was referring to the papal magisterium when he wrote quote this
sacred office of teacher in matters of faith and morals must be the proximate
and Universal Criterion of Truth for all theologians since to it has been
entrusted by Christ Our Lord the whole deposit of Faith sacred scripture and
divine tradition to be preserved guarded and interpreted unquote
and Pope Saint Pius X had likewise affirmed in his 1909 elocution
conversation quote the first and greatest Criterion of the faith the
ultimate and unassailable test of Orthodoxy is obedience to the teaching
authority of the church which is ever living and infallible since she was

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established by Christ to be the columna at firmamentum veritatis the pillar and
support of Truth and that's a reference to First Timothy 3 15. unquote
as I said exit kwajniewski but we're not done yet I'm afraid listen to what he
says here quote I do not think there is any
absolutely decisive and unobjectionable proof and he puts proof in quotes that
one must be in Union with the Catholic Church centered in Rome such that it
would be impossible to resist it with counter arguments or contrary experiences
that point in another Direction but for the same reasons neither is such
a proof available for any Church of the East
if anything the arguments of the East for its autocephalus status are far

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weaker than the arguments for the papacy as a center of unity unquote
unbelievable so kwajneski supposedly an authority on
traditional Catholicism asserts that there is no conclusive proof that the
Catholic church is the true church and not the Orthodox Church
and he says that in what is supposed to be a defense of Catholicism against
Eastern Orthodoxy you've got to be kidding
oh yeah he says there is more reason to accept the Catholic Church
But ultimately you can't prove it's the true church so I guess it's a matter of
weighing probabilities or am I reading him wrong
it looks to me like he's denying that we can know that the Catholic religion is
the true religion and this man is being promoted left and
right by the semi-trans as a great writer on traditional Catholicism it's

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frightening says next is also interesting quote what
we do have in any case are many converging signs that the Latin and
Greek churches have preserved their sacramental liturgical dogmatic
identities in spite of individual deviants who cause scandal
and that each has with God's grace preserved certain truths or features
better than the other has done unquote did you get that he just said that the
false Orthodox Churches have preserved certain truths or features better than
the Roman Catholic church and that that is due to God's grace and vice versa
that sounds like something straight out of Vatican too

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in fact in footnote number three of his article question writes quote the church
has always recognized Apostolic succession and valid sacraments in the
churches of the East and this fundamental Bond and divine realities
brings those churches into some actual albeit imperfect relationship with the
Catholic Church to which they once belonged in full there is an objective
woundedness to the empirical Church on Earth by the lack of the Eastern
provinces unquote that's Vatican II speak right there
notice also the lack of clarity he speaks of a fundamental bond in Divine
realities and of some actual albeit imperfect
relationship with the church funny how it doesn't say communion to which these
false churches once belonged in full ah so they now belong only in part

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well there's your Vatican II ecclesiology of partial communion
that is the inescapable problem with recognize and resist you never quite
know just how much to resist once you deviate from what you recognize as the
papal magisterium what other standard are you going to go by what will be your
source to allow you either to correct or accept the papal magisterium
will it be articles on 1 Peter 5 The Remnant the sspx ah I know tradition
right but wait a minute tradition tells you to use the papal magisterium as your
standard checkmate and with that we'll wrap it up for today

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