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Liberal politicians and Catholic membership

Started by Kephapaulos, November 08, 2020, 12:58:15 AM

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Kephapaulos

Can it be said that politicians today who claim to be Catholic and support abortion are Catholic strictly speaking? The natural law would be considered de fide then? Ryan Grant pointed out how such politicans are still Catholic, and I think he would mean that they are so because they have not been formally excommunicated canonically, even though they are dead members of the Church.

Geremia

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Pius XII in his encyclical Mystici Corporis Christi §22, after stating the conditions for membership in the Church (that one must be baptized, profess the true (Catholic) faith, and not be excommunicated), writes:
Quote from: Pope Pius XIIif a man refuse to hear the Church let him be considered — so the Lord commands — as a heathen and a publican.
Mt. 18:17, the last resort of fraternal correction: "And if he will not hear them: tell the church. And if he will not hear the church, let him be to thee as the heathen and publican."

These liberal, Catholic-in-name-only politicians have been corrected by the Church, e.g., by being denied Communion. They are "as a heathen and a publican".

Kephapaulos

Would such men be considered heretics with their objective denial of natural law?

Geremia

Quote from: Kephapaulos on May 27, 2022, 06:54:30 PMWould such men be considered heretics with their objective denial of natural law?
Anyone who denies natural law also goes against divine revelation; the Decalogue is natural law, and Yahweh revealed it directly to Moses.

Geremia


Quote from: St. Catherine of SienaO alas, be silent no more! Shout with a hundred thousand tongues. I see that, through silence, the world is broken, the Bride of Christ is impaled
Letter 16, "to a great prelate"