Love consumes us only in the measure of our self-surrender. —St. Thérèse of Lisieux
Started by Kephapaulos, July 26, 2016, 11:33:01 PM
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Quote from: Jesús Huerta de SotoBut [Fr. Juan de] Mariana insists on another very important idea. He says natural law is vastly superior to the power of each king or ruler. This is an essential idea that is still perfectly applicable today. I believe that we must be aware of and very proud of the fact that when Thomas Jefferson, the founding father of the United States, was considering whether or not to rise up against the king of England, in order to give encouragement to Madison and the rest of the founding fathers of the great American homeland, he says to them: "You only have to read one book: The History of Spain by Fr. Juan de Mariana." And, in fact, Madison even sent him a copy of the book [the "12mo" or duodecimo version of vol. 2; here's a scan of Madison's copy on Internet Archive], because it is a history of Spain written from the perspective of freedom, unmasking the tyrants.
Quote from: Kephapaulos on July 28, 2016, 01:42:18 PMI had thought that authority came from God directly.
Quote from: Rom. 13:1,4Let every soul be subject to higher powers, for there is not power [authority] but of God. And those that are [princes], of God are ordained. ... For he [a prince] is God's minister unto thee for good. ...
Quote from: Geremia on July 27, 2016, 09:55:40 AMAlso, Jefferson might have read Hobbes's Leviathon, which has a chapter entitled "Cardinal Bellarmines Books De Summo Pontifice Considered."
Quote from: Kephapaulos on October 12, 2016, 01:56:57 PMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxOa25hNU1sThis was a good listen for the topic of this thread. It is a talk by Dr. Jeffrey Bonds on the principles of James Madison and about two of The Federalist Papers. The concepts of liberty and justice on which the United States and its government are based are indeed erroneous. No wonder we see what we see today from the current presidential election to the individual U.S. citizen.
QuoteDéclaration des droits Article X:No one may be disturbed for his opinions, even religious ones, provided that their manifestation does not trouble the public order established by the law.
QuoteDéclaration des droits Article XI:The free communication of [true and false!*] thoughts and opinions is one of the most precious rights of man: any citizen thus may speak, write, print freely, except to respond to the abuse of this liberty,** in the cases determined by the law.
QuoteU.S. Constitution's 1st AmendmentCongress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, ...
Quote... Unde optima ordinatio principum est in aliqua civitate vel regno, in qua unus praeficitur secundum virtutem qui omnibus praesit; et sub ipso sunt aliqui principantes secundum virtutem; et tamen talis principatus ad omnes pertinet, tum quia ex omnibus eligi possunt, tum quia etiam ab omnibus eliguntur. Talis enim est optima politia, bene commixta ex regno, inquantum unus praeest; et aristocratia, inquantum multi principantur secundum virtutem; et ex democratia, idest potestate populi, inquantum ex popularibus possunt eligi principes, et ad populum pertinet electio principum.
Quote from: Geremia on October 17, 2016, 09:00:53 AMMadison et al. were clearly deists/materialists, influenced by Newton in their idea of "justice" as a "balancing of (vector) forces" between opposing "factions;" the more opposing "factions," the more balanced ("just") the country will be. They think citizens are like molecules in an ideal gas! Improving the system by statistical analysis, not the perfection of the citizens, is their solution.
QuoteThis doctrine, according to which moral nature is reduced to physical nature and which holds that political and moral laws flaws in the first and second sense mentioned above) are merely laws of social physics (laws in the third sense) is termed mechanism or materialism. Politics in this system is merely the art of conforming the conduct of societies and the laws of states to the physical laws so discovered and formulated.
Quote from: Kephapaulos on May 09, 2023, 10:08:22 PMThat is naturalism and barbarism.
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