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Started by mhumpher, January 12, 2017, 02:21:43 AM

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Geremia

Quote from: Baroque_Moralist on May 26, 2026, 06:02:17 PM
Quote from: Leo XIVnew forms of property, such as patents, algorithms, digital platforms, technological infrastructure and data
But IP technically isn't property.
Quote from: Geremia on January 14, 2017, 12:52:47 AMStephan N. Kinsella's argument in Against Intellectual Property [is] that IP is not property because property rights only apply to scarce resources

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Quote from: Geremia on May 26, 2026, 07:44:41 PM
Quote from: Baroque_Moralist on May 26, 2026, 06:02:17 PM
Quote from: Leo XIVnew forms of property, such as patents, algorithms, digital platforms, technological infrastructure and data
But IP technically isn't property.
Quote from: Geremia on January 14, 2017, 12:52:47 AMStephan N. Kinsella's argument in Against Intellectual Property [is] that IP is not property because property rights only apply to scarce resources

Yes. I will need to see the Latin when it's released because I think this is colloquially being used: I don't like the term "property" being used here whatsoever because that's exactly how the "YouCat" conceives of "property" like this. I don't know if you saw that weird "YouCat" but its section on this could have been written by the RIAA.
QuoteThe theft of intellectual property begins with copying other students' work in school, continues in the illegal taking of materials from the Internet, [...] and extends to business dealings in stolen concepts and ideas. Every acquisition of someone else's intellectual property demands the free consent and appropriate remuneration of the author or inventor.
This is downright evil, and this is the "logic" of where treating truth, ideas, etc as "property" ultimately leads you.

The syntax here requires precision and calling these things "property" is imprecise. I agree with you and have difficulty conceiving of anything other than a perishable good being "proper to" an individual. Bucceroni directly addresses this in the star analogy.

Without regard to the way the Vatican conceives of "property" I think Dr. K. should address the historical precedents for "piracy" in monastic publishing etc.
"Thus as no man goeth to the Father but by the Son, so no man goeth to Christ but by His Mother. How great are the goodness and mercy revealed in this design of God! What a correspondence with the frailty of man!" - Leo XIII, Octobri mense

Geremia

Quote from: Baroque_Moralist on May 26, 2026, 08:26:07 PMI don't know if you saw that weird "YouCat" but its section on this could have been written by the RIAA.
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YouCat is terrible.